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    Re: Should We Allow The Uninsured To Die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You mean their decision to be greedy and not care about their fellow citizens or country's well being?
    how does keeping dead weight alive help the country's well being?
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    Re: Should We Allow The Uninsured To Die?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    poor people today get better health care then the richest person could of received 30 years ago.

    comparing this situation to slavery is pathetic.
    So poor people should only have expectations of health care as it was 30 years ago? Why is that?
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    Re: Should We Allow The Uninsured To Die?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    how does keeping dead weight alive help the country's well being?
    I do not share your opinion that the lower middle class and the poor are dead weight. Without them, who would do the work that makes the 85% of the wealth that the top 20% enjoy?
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    Re: Should We Allow The Uninsured To Die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    So poor people should only have expectations of health care as it was 30 years ago? Why is that?
    read it again, you failed to comprehend a simple statement.

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    Re: Should We Allow The Uninsured To Die?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    how does keeping dead weight alive help the country's well being?
    It places an artificial burden on limited resources, and thusly weakens the species as a whole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You mean their decision to be greedy and not care about their fellow citizens or country's well being?
    What? No, I mean that we don't respect people's decision to go without insurance and we don't hold them accountable to that decision. That is our fault.

    Any of us should be allowed to take our chances and forego health insurance. Respecting this decision means not insuring them de facto after the fact.
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    Re: Should We Allow The Uninsured To Die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    The most you'll demonstrate by finding Republicans that support a mandate is that there are Republicans out there who are not really conservative.
    It is your opinion the Heritage foundation is not conservative?
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    Re: Should We Allow The Uninsured To Die?

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    It places an artificial burden on limited resources, and thusly weakens the species as a whole.
    That statement comes off as if it were written by a Mr. Spock type communicating about an alien race on another planet. Its almost cold enough to freeze my computer.
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    Re: Should We Allow The Uninsured To Die?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    First of all, I'm not angry. I'm a realist.

    Taxes are most certainly "stealing" when you take disporportionately from one group to benefit another, isolated group. If healthcare is too expensive then fix the problems in healthcare. Don't solve the problem by using the "rich" as a scapegoat. Every single financial problem we have...the solution is always "we've gotta tax the rich more, we gotta get it from them." They aren't an unlimited fountain of funds. You keep using them as the source of all your solutions and eventually the well's going to run dry.

    Then what? How do you give more and more and more to people who are perfectly capable once you've taken everything from the top 5%?...when they're now in that pool of "poor" needing help? Where do you go then?

    I'm telling you. Fix what's wrong with the system before you demand that other people act as the bandaid. Stop ignoring that the problem isn't fixed simply by taking more money from the rich. Stop acting like those of us who view it pragmatically are heartless, or afraid. We realize what none of y'all want to admit. Your stupid little idea of going after the top 5% is just as unsustainable (if not more so) than any other system or solution suggested. You're ignoring the bigger issue for the sake of continuing some sort of bull**** class warfare nonsense.
    Oh they know we're not heartless, they just use that for political leverage. Taking money from you and giving it to others equals power. They are all about power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It is your opinion the Heritage foundation is not conservative?
    In my opinion the notion to mandate purchases of health insurance is not conservative.

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