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    Re: Should We Allow The Uninsured To Die?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    You could get more conservative by not implementing this at the federal level. When states are allowed to compete with other states over efficient government programs, we implement another check and balance.
    And how did that work out to solve slavery and equal voting rights before the civil war?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Or, they are people who care about the health and welfare of their fellow citizens and their country.
    They are people who don't respect others' decisions or hold them accountable thereto.

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    Re: Should We Allow The Uninsured To Die?

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    There's a -zillion- ways to get 'more conservative' than forcing people to pay for the medical costs of others, under any guise.
    "The concept of the individual health insurance mandate originated in 1989 at the conservative Heritage Foundation. In 1993, Republicans twice introduced health care bills that contained an individual health insurance mandate. Advocates for those bills included prominent Republicans who today oppose the mandate including Orrin Hatch (R-UT), Charles Grassley (R-IA), Robert Bennett (R-UT), and Christopher Bond (R-MO). In 2007, Democrats and Republicans introduced a bi-partisan bill containing the mandate."
    History of the Individual Health Insurance Mandate, 1989-2010 - Health Care Reform - ProCon.org
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    Re: Should We Allow The Uninsured To Die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    And how did that work out to solve slavery and equal voting rights before the civil war?
    it actually was working, just not fast enough given what was at stake.

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    The most you'll demonstrate by finding Republicans that support a mandate is that there are Republicans out there who are not really conservative.
    Last edited by Neomalthusian; 09-16-11 at 04:04 PM.

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    Re: Should We Allow The Uninsured To Die?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    it actually was working, just not fast enough given what was at stake.
    Exactly why it is needed today.
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    Re: Should We Allow The Uninsured To Die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    The most you'll demonstrate by finding Republicans that support a mandate is that there are Republicans out there who are not really conservative.
    This is, in fact, news to certain people here.

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    Re: Should We Allow The Uninsured To Die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Exactly why it is needed today.
    poor people today get better health care then the richest person could of received 30 years ago.

    comparing this situation to slavery is pathetic.

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    Re: Should We Allow The Uninsured To Die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    They are people who don't respect others' decisions or hold them accountable thereto.
    You mean their decision to be greedy and not care about their fellow citizens or country's well being?
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    Re: Should We Allow The Uninsured To Die?

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    poor people today get better health care then the richest person could of received 30 years ago.

    comparing this situation to slavery is pathetic.
    it's all he's got.
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