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    Re: Should We Allow The Uninsured To Die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    If you don't give the have nots everything they need, they'll commit crimes and you'll spend more jailing them and repairing the damage they cause. Or so the argument goes. It works just like a hostage situation.
    Shoot the hostage - take him out of the equation.

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    Re: Should We Allow The Uninsured To Die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    Unless you can locate a community health care center that charges nothing, at least here, this is not true.
    I can find you at least 10 religion-sponsored clinics in the DFW area that provide free care if your income is below a set point. And I know they exist in Michigan and Indiana too.
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    Re: Should We Allow The Uninsured To Die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    True. It could just mean that they have a "pre-existing condition."
    It could also mean that they, like my father, pay for the medical care out of pocket on an as-needed basis.
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    Re: Should We Allow The Uninsured To Die?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    It could also mean that they, like my father, pay for the medical care out of pocket on an as-needed basis.
    here's hoping he doesn't need anything that will cost him a fortune, because it will ruin him.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Should We Allow The Uninsured To Die?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    here's hoping he doesn't need anything that will cost him a fortune, because it will ruin him.
    That'd suck. But he'd pay as much as he could, as long as he could. There was a point over the last few years when having an insurance premium (even just on himself) would have been the difference between keeping or losing his house. He's spent less on paying full-price for medical care in 20 years than he'd spend on premiums in one.
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    Re: Should We Allow The Uninsured To Die?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    It could also mean that they, like my father, pay for the medical care out of pocket on an as-needed basis.
    I admit that it would be nice to have a million dollars set aside for that. For most of us, though, that's not an option.

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    Re: Should We Allow The Uninsured To Die?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    That'd suck. But he'd pay as much as he could, as long as he could.
    It's all about choice.
    I thought liberals supported the right to choose...?

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    Re: Should We Allow The Uninsured To Die?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    That'd suck. But he'd pay as much as he could, as long as he could. There was a point over the last few years when having an insurance premium (even just on himself) would have been the difference between keeping or losing his house. He's spent less on paying full-price for medical care in 20 years than he'd spend on premiums in one.
    and now he's not young. no way could he pay for anything major, so in effect, WE pay for him. he would be one of those people many in this thread are talking about, the irresponsible one who didn't get insurance and now is catastrophically ill. your dad, among others, is why i think we need mandated coverage. are you insured?

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Should We Allow The Uninsured To Die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    I admit that it would be nice to have a million dollars set aside for that. For most of us, though, that's not an option.
    He's far from a millionaire. He took losses the last 3 years. He lives in a house valued at $87k (low for DFW).
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    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    and now he's not young. no way could he pay for anything major, so in effect, WE pay for him. he would be one of those people many in this thread are talking about, the irresponsible one who didn't get insurance and now is catastrophically ill.
    He is not irresponsible. WE are irresponsible for insuring de facto those who opt not to be insured.

    your dad, among others, is why i think we need mandated coverage.
    No, we "need mandated coverage" because WE don't respect people's choices to be uninsured and possibly die, and we don't hold them to those choices. We ignore their choices, do what WE think is best for them, and pay the price collectively.
    Last edited by Neomalthusian; 09-15-11 at 03:43 PM.

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