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Is it right?

Is it right to cheer for people's deaths.


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I do not think our justice system is perfect in its conviction record. Many convicted just don't have the money or lawyers to correctly defend themselves. That leads to many false convictions at all levels. Per capita, we have more citizens incarcerated than any Nation in the world. It's a business here, and not a very proud one. Execution requires 100% certainty and I don't see that 100% of the time.
 
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Yeah they deserved to die...and I hope they burn in hell!
 
I won't necessarily cheer, but I will support it. From the data we have, the number executed who were later proven innocent pales in comparison to the number of innocent lives lost by murderers being set free and killing again.

False dichotomy.
 
I could care less about cheering . .. I want to focus on "should you let a man who could afford but doesn't by health insurance die?"

I'd answer maybe. It depends on what the issue is - what are they dying from. A preventable disease that's costly to cure - but currable? A self inflicted condition related to obesity from overeating or alcohol consumption? Or something that's out of their control like a car accident or some such? If they CHOOSE not to do something and they KNOW the risks then they are CHOOSING those risks and are ACCEPTING what that means for them in their life.

But there's nothing wrong with giving aid and expecting to be paid for time, assistance and services rendered.

But let's not forget that the cost of medical care when up BECAUSE of the insurance industry gaining dominance. The cost rose because it COULD rise. So healthcare is so expensive BECAUSE of the insurance industry - not because people don't have insurance.

I agree with your post. I just think there is a difference between being happy that such a person is dead and being regretful that we had to let it happen. I wasn't arguing that the person without insurance should necessarily be treated. I wasn't arguing that the people in Texas didn't deserve to be executed, or that Osama bin Laden didn't deserve to die.
 
Tonight's and last week's debate brought up something interesting. Last week, the loudest applause of the night broke out when Brian Williams mentioned the executions of over 200 people in Texas. Tonight people shouted out "yes" to the question "should you let a man who could afford but doesn't by health insurance die?" For example, I agree that the death penalty is correct in some cases, but I do not believe that it is something to be triumphed. Rather, I believe it should only be used as a sort of regretful last resort. Something necessary, but not something to be proud of.

So, the question. Is it right to cheer for people's deaths, even if you agree that the person deserved it?

this was another example of right wing whackery in all it's glory. says much about the audience for the republican debates, doesn't it?
 
I agree with your post. I just think there is a difference between being happy that such a person is dead and being regretful that we had to let it happen. I wasn't arguing that the person without insurance should necessarily be treated. I wasn't arguing that the people in Texas didn't deserve to be executed, or that Osama bin Laden didn't deserve to die.

Well it's a guy suffering from lack of health insurance and Osama Bin Laden in one post about 'rooting for someone's death' . . . the two don't relate at all, for me, and I wouldn't be happy that anyone suffers anything and dies becaues of a lack of some printed green papers.

But Osama - yeah - I cheered and would do it again. He cheered when the towers fell - I only feel it's a matter of reciprocation. Anytime a filthy bastard bites teh dust it's one for the good guys.

Two completely different issues and they can't be answered with the same shred of thought from me.
 
Joke answer of some kind: Only if your far right wing.
 
Well it's a guy suffering from lack of health insurance and Osama Bin Laden in one post about 'rooting for someone's death' . . . the two don't relate at all, for me, and I wouldn't be happy that anyone suffers anything and dies becaues of a lack of some printed green papers.

But Osama - yeah - I cheered and would do it again. He cheered when the towers fell - I only feel it's a matter of reciprocation. Anytime a filthy bastard bites teh dust it's one for the good guys.

Two completely different issues and they can't be answered with the same shred of thought from me.

That's fair I suppose. Perhaps both issues shouldn't have been put into one thread. However, I still don't think we should be rooting for someone's death even OBL's. My personal opinion is that we shouldn't become a society which relishes its role as executioner.
 
I don't cheer death. I might feel relieved or even happy that someone died, but it isn't really because of their death as it is that their death means that they can no longer cause harm.

I would never cheer someone dying because they couldn't afford health insurance or medical care. That is just cruel and shows a lack of understanding for why people cannot afford medical treatment.

I am pro-capital punishment, but I don't cheer about how many people are executed due to that punishment. In fact, high statistics of the use of capital punishment is extremely sad to me because it shows that we are not doing enough to prevent people from reaching that point where we need to use capital punishment.
 
There is not one person in this whole entire world whose death you would cheer? A serial killer, child rapist, mass murdering dictator?

I would not cheer their death. In fact, I will be greatly saddened by it as it means years of the harshest treatment available that makes Gitmo look like a picnic has been avoided by a painless death
 
I don't cheer death. I might feel relieved or even happy that someone died, but it isn't really because of their death as it is that their death means that they can no longer cause harm.

I would never cheer someone dying because they couldn't afford health insurance or medical care. That is just cruel and shows a lack of understanding for why people cannot afford medical treatment.

I am pro-capital punishment, but I don't cheer about how many people are executed due to that punishment. In fact, high statistics of the use of capital punishment is extremely sad to me because it shows that we are not doing enough to prevent people from reaching that point where we need to use capital punishment.

Thank you. Those are my exact feelings on the subject.
 
Good question. Were you glad for bin Laden's death? Did you cheer?


Fair question. Most who cheered were cheering for a military victory, rather than his death. But some were cheering his death, it's true.
 
It's like I've given you the answer to a math equation. There's no question. Look at the quote and solve it.

No, it's more like you've stated a proposition without writing a proof. Your claim will get some respect if and only if you can back it up.
 
I'm pretty sure that the majority of people who cheered at the debate were cheering for Texas standing up for a principal they believe in - the death penalty. I'm equally sure there are some people who would cheer someone's death, but I think if they stepped back a second, most would agree it's in poor taste. But, there are plenty of people who "cheer" in support of abortion, too (just to pull a death topic from the liberal side).

I think it's in poor taste to "cheer" for death - the death of criminals, Osama, babies, those who can't afford insurance - whoever. But, I understand the idea of cheering someone on who's taking a tough stand on something in which I believe or in cheering when a goal's been accomplished - however morbid the goal was.

I didn't cheer for the death penalty or Osama. But, I was supportive of both.
 
The TEA party has pretty much been hijacked by its most extreme members. If they were cheering for people to die, it's crass and unforgivable. However, these people don't know a proper outlet for their anger. They're so fed up with this taxation, this administration, this shroud of lies that they've lost perspective. If they're cheering the idea of not having to be the part of the chain that supports its weakest links, that's one thing. Hell, I side with them on that one. Otherwise, no pass.
 
Every stem of any political party has it's nutters . . . the democratic party has a lot in theirs - but they just haven't split off into their own group so they don't get the attention that some from the Tea Party has.
 
Every stem of any political party has it's nutters . . . the democratic party has a lot in theirs - but they just haven't split off into their own group so they don't get the attention that some from the Tea Party has.

I suppose we call them "progressives," but you're right they're not as loud or garner as much attention as the Tea Party. (and I personally think they are less crazy, but that could simply be a matter of persepctive).
 
I say not over such grave topics. It's no different than saying, "we have killed 220,000 enemy combatants in this war!" and getting cheers out of that. You can say you are patriotic, you can say those people are the enemy, but in the end, no matter how you look at it, you just cheered about 220,000 people dying.
So... what's wrong with that?
Such things were common about 70 years ago.
 
just what is there to rejoice over? .

1.That the piece of **** is dead.
2.That piece of **** will no longer be able to harm another innocent person.


what is going to change as a result?

If he is dead he can't harm anyone, He can't give tv interviews. If he is dead he or she can't do the things they used to do.
it's not going to make someone we loved who has been taken from us magically reappear

I do not think any one has ever made the claim that cheering the death of a scumbag magically makes dead victims suddenly come back to life. I could be wrong on this because there might be some cult out there that believes cheering the death of a scumbag brings his victims back to life. So why do scumbag sympathizers always bring up this non-issue of how it won't bring someone back to life in death penalty debates and why do you bring this up on the issue on whether or not it is right to cheer the death of someone?
 
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God, if you can't cheer for the deaths of your enemies, then what's the point in even having them? Just don't cry like a bitch when they're cheering at your funeral.

My big problem with the people cheering and dancing in the streets is that they were the same people all butthurt about the people cheering and dancing on September 12th.
 
God, if you can't cheer for the deaths of your enemies, then what's the point in even having them? Just don't cry like a bitch when they're cheering at your funeral.

My big problem with the people cheering and dancing in the streets is that they were the same people all butthurt about the people cheering and dancing on September 12th.

All the people that died on 9-11 are somehow comparable to dead terrorists,dictators and other scumbags who murder innocent people?
 
Whoops. That's what I get for not reading the question fully. Cheering for people's deaths may not be the most psychologically healthy, or productive thing to do, but there's nothing wrong with it, provided the person deserves it. I can't wait to see any number of politicians kick off. Good riddance.
 
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