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    Re: Is it right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I could care less about cheering . .. I want to focus on "should you let a man who could afford but doesn't by health insurance die?"

    I'd answer maybe. It depends on what the issue is - what are they dying from. A preventable disease that's costly to cure - but currable? A self inflicted condition related to obesity from overeating or alcohol consumption? Or something that's out of their control like a car accident or some such? If they CHOOSE not to do something and they KNOW the risks then they are CHOOSING those risks and are ACCEPTING what that means for them in their life.

    But there's nothing wrong with giving aid and expecting to be paid for time, assistance and services rendered.

    But let's not forget that the cost of medical care when up BECAUSE of the insurance industry gaining dominance. The cost rose because it COULD rise. So healthcare is so expensive BECAUSE of the insurance industry - not because people don't have insurance.
    I agree with your post. I just think there is a difference between being happy that such a person is dead and being regretful that we had to let it happen. I wasn't arguing that the person without insurance should necessarily be treated. I wasn't arguing that the people in Texas didn't deserve to be executed, or that Osama bin Laden didn't deserve to die.
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    Re: Is it right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    Tonight's and last week's debate brought up something interesting. Last week, the loudest applause of the night broke out when Brian Williams mentioned the executions of over 200 people in Texas. Tonight people shouted out "yes" to the question "should you let a man who could afford but doesn't by health insurance die?" For example, I agree that the death penalty is correct in some cases, but I do not believe that it is something to be triumphed. Rather, I believe it should only be used as a sort of regretful last resort. Something necessary, but not something to be proud of.

    So, the question. Is it right to cheer for people's deaths, even if you agree that the person deserved it?
    this was another example of right wing whackery in all it's glory. says much about the audience for the republican debates, doesn't it?

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    Re: Is it right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    I agree with your post. I just think there is a difference between being happy that such a person is dead and being regretful that we had to let it happen. I wasn't arguing that the person without insurance should necessarily be treated. I wasn't arguing that the people in Texas didn't deserve to be executed, or that Osama bin Laden didn't deserve to die.
    Well it's a guy suffering from lack of health insurance and Osama Bin Laden in one post about 'rooting for someone's death' . . . the two don't relate at all, for me, and I wouldn't be happy that anyone suffers anything and dies becaues of a lack of some printed green papers.

    But Osama - yeah - I cheered and would do it again. He cheered when the towers fell - I only feel it's a matter of reciprocation. Anytime a filthy bastard bites teh dust it's one for the good guys.

    Two completely different issues and they can't be answered with the same shred of thought from me.
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    Re: Is it right?

    Joke answer of some kind: Only if your far right wing.


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    Re: Is it right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Well it's a guy suffering from lack of health insurance and Osama Bin Laden in one post about 'rooting for someone's death' . . . the two don't relate at all, for me, and I wouldn't be happy that anyone suffers anything and dies becaues of a lack of some printed green papers.

    But Osama - yeah - I cheered and would do it again. He cheered when the towers fell - I only feel it's a matter of reciprocation. Anytime a filthy bastard bites teh dust it's one for the good guys.

    Two completely different issues and they can't be answered with the same shred of thought from me.
    That's fair I suppose. Perhaps both issues shouldn't have been put into one thread. However, I still don't think we should be rooting for someone's death even OBL's. My personal opinion is that we shouldn't become a society which relishes its role as executioner.
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    Re: Is it right?

    I don't cheer death. I might feel relieved or even happy that someone died, but it isn't really because of their death as it is that their death means that they can no longer cause harm.

    I would never cheer someone dying because they couldn't afford health insurance or medical care. That is just cruel and shows a lack of understanding for why people cannot afford medical treatment.

    I am pro-capital punishment, but I don't cheer about how many people are executed due to that punishment. In fact, high statistics of the use of capital punishment is extremely sad to me because it shows that we are not doing enough to prevent people from reaching that point where we need to use capital punishment.
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    Re: Is it right?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    There is not one person in this whole entire world whose death you would cheer? A serial killer, child rapist, mass murdering dictator?
    I would not cheer their death. In fact, I will be greatly saddened by it as it means years of the harshest treatment available that makes Gitmo look like a picnic has been avoided by a painless death
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    Re: Is it right?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I don't cheer death. I might feel relieved or even happy that someone died, but it isn't really because of their death as it is that their death means that they can no longer cause harm.

    I would never cheer someone dying because they couldn't afford health insurance or medical care. That is just cruel and shows a lack of understanding for why people cannot afford medical treatment.

    I am pro-capital punishment, but I don't cheer about how many people are executed due to that punishment. In fact, high statistics of the use of capital punishment is extremely sad to me because it shows that we are not doing enough to prevent people from reaching that point where we need to use capital punishment.
    Thank you. Those are my exact feelings on the subject.
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    Re: Is it right?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Good question. Were you glad for bin Laden's death? Did you cheer?

    Fair question. Most who cheered were cheering for a military victory, rather than his death. But some were cheering his death, it's true.
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    Re: Is it right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    Let's hear your reasoning.
    It's like I've given you the answer to a math equation. There's no question. Look at the quote and solve it.

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