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    Re: Does strong infrastructure perpetuate economic growth

    A problem with looking to 'build more stuff' to spur job-growth is that such job-growth is temporary: in a few years they'll still need a job. And it's long-term costly: maintenance.

    If we can't maintain what we already have - then why add onto it?
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    Re: Does strong infrastructure perpetuate economic growth

    what we need is expansion of roads, bridges, and electrical infrastructure. we don't have the electrical capacity to meet current demand in some places, much less expanded demand generated by electric vehicles in the future.

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    Re: Does strong infrastructure perpetuate economic growth

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    High speed rail is a great invention. However it has two main drawbacks - it is a monopoly and it could be easy target for terrorists. But I believe this can be tackled.
    I don't see any problem with the middle states not having HSR because of low population density. You'll have to take the plane.
    Planes are terror targets too... well, almost anything is really.

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    Re: Does strong infrastructure perpetuate economic growth

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    what we need is expansion of roads, bridges, and electrical infrastructure. we don't have the electrical capacity to meet current demand in some places, much less expanded demand generated by electric vehicles in the future.
    I was actually wondering what caused that massive power outage in CA and AZ, but I never found the cause... I figured it was overload or something.

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    Re: Does strong infrastructure perpetuate economic growth

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I was actually wondering what caused that massive power outage in CA and AZ, but I never found the cause... I figured it was overload or something.
    human error and an overloaded grid :

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/10/us/10power.html

    Update: Power Coming Back On In San Diego; Human Error Blamed : The Two-Way : NPR

    if it was worth building an interstate highway system federally, then it is certainly worth it to expand and secure our electrical grid. it is time to act.

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    Re: Does strong infrastructure perpetuate economic growth

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    human error and an overloaded grid :

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/10/us/10power.html

    Update: Power Coming Back On In San Diego; Human Error Blamed : The Two-Way : NPR

    if it was worth building an interstate highway system federally, then it is certainly worth it to expand and secure our electrical grid. it is time to act.
    I agree. It's really embarrassing. Ever since the recession and anti spending movement, I have been scared to drive on bridges.

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    Re: Does strong infrastructure perpetuate economic growth

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Planes are terror targets too... well, almost anything is really.
    Well, it would certainly be better to pour a couple of hundred billion dollars in HSR than to blow it for bailouts. At least America will have something real and useful.
    Hey, Hoover Dam worked at the time and I believe HSR has the same or even greater potential.

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    Re: Does strong infrastructure perpetuate economic growth

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    I agree. It's really embarrassing. Ever since the recession and anti spending movement, I have been scared to drive on bridges.
    And bridges are one of the parts of our infrastructure in the best shape. Energy is still lagging behind what it should be IMO, but the shortfalls in that category pale in comparison to the shortfalls in drinking water and waste water. People take these things for granted until they are gone.

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    Re: Does strong infrastructure perpetuate economic growth

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    A problem with looking to 'build more stuff' to spur job-growth is that such job-growth is temporary: in a few years they'll still need a job. And it's long-term costly: maintenance.

    If we can't maintain what we already have - then why add onto it?
    Mainly the point is to spur demand by putting money in people's pockets, while paying them to do work that desperately needs to be done anyway.

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    Re: Does strong infrastructure perpetuate economic growth

    In the U.S. HSR is largely a boondoggle, with the exception of a select few places.

    Infrastructure is important to maintaining economic growth, provided it is consistently maintained.
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