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    Re: Government can't create jobs

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    Wait... Whose gonna pick up the tab for all these government jobs if everybody has one? QUOTE]Dont worry about it. We'll pass the cost on to your grandkids. Who cares...its not like WE actually have to be responsible for it! **** them!
    So how many of the 2,278,895 Armed Forces jobs do you recommend we cut to reduce our debt?
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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The infrastructure projects you describe will not likely 'create' jobs...they will 'save' jobs...in other words, they will enable existing government agencies (state and federal) to pay existing employees. The 'shoevl readp' projects proved to be a dismal failure. The better use of the money being considered would not be to create or maintain jobs, it would be to purchase products/increase demand on the private sector. That would also place administrative requirement on those private agencies. The money would go a lot further and would accomplish a lot more.
    They actually create jobs in two ways. \

    The direct spending on the projects. A generally short term job creator for the life of the construction (excluding of course the maintance of the infrustructure.

    The second way is for the transportation network (ie roads) is that it makes business far more efficient allowing for the rapid transport of goods across the nation and into the world at large. Imagine how inefficient domestic US travel would be if everyone was travelling on 2 lane highways rather then the interstate freeways. That promotes jobs, private sector jobs created through government spending

    The Hoover Dam, is creating jobs in three ways. The electricity it produces allowing for business to run efficiently and cheaply as hydro power is fairly cheap. Tourism jobs as people come to see the dam and boat on the resivoir(sp). Third by providing water to the various cities and agriculture in the area. No Hoover Dam, many of the jobs in the region would not exist
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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    So how many of the 2,278,895 Armed Forces jobs do you recommend we cut to reduce our debt?
    A BUNCH. Ive already said so. We have massive waste in the civ service. We can use our military MUCH more efficiently with a reduced manpower footprint. Oh...and thats just the start. we can kill of the Dept of Education, the Dept of Transportation...conservatively, Id say doing a top down review of the fed, we could reduce over half and remain as efficient.

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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    A BUNCH. Ive already said so. We have massive waste in the civ service. We can use our military MUCH more efficiently with a reduced manpower footprint. Oh...and thats just the start. we can kill of the Dept of Education, the Dept of Transportation...conservatively, Id say doing a top down review of the fed, we could reduce over half and remain as efficient.
    I would agree that our military costs could be cut by 2/3 and we would still have the most powerful military on the planet. However, to short change education and tranportation that is vital to our future would be throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    The TSA doesn't create jobs.
    NASA doesn't create jobs.
    The CIA doesn't create jobs.
    Neither does the FBI.
    Nor the Army.
    Or the Navy.
    The Air Force doesn't, either.
    And certainly not those Marines.

    At least, if we bought the Republican lie, we'd have to believe all those lies, every single one, and many more like them.
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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I would agree that our military costs could be cut by 2/3 and we would still have the most powerful military on the planet. However, to short change education and tranportation that is vital to our future would be throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
    You wouldnt be shortchanging it, you would be eliminating federal bureaucracy. Education occurs at the state level, which, by happy coincidence, also has education departments. States also manage their own transportation departments. IMAGINE how much more effective they would be if they didnt have to dump taxes into a bloated and wasteful federal system.

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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    The TSA doesn't create jobs.
    NASA doesn't create jobs.
    The CIA doesn't create jobs.
    Neither does the FBI.
    Nor the Army.
    Or the Navy.
    The Air Force doesn't, either.
    And certainly not those Marines.

    At least, if we bought the Republican lie, we'd have to believe all those lies, every single one, and many more like them.
    Who pays for those services? Who pays those salaries. how are they financed? They exist and are able to exist because the PRIVATE SECTOR supports them. Without a private sector you can make however many fed jobs you want...no one will pay for them and your country goes bankrupt. Sort of...well...like what is happening NOW and like what you want to see happen FASTER.

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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    So how many of the 2,278,895 Armed Forces jobs do you recommend we cut to reduce our debt?
    Personally, I think we should not cut one person in the constitutionally authorized military.

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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Government can create jobs within its own agencies. Outside of that, all the government can do is create incentives for third parties to create jobs.

    At least, that is how it's supposed to work in the "free" world.

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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And now wait for somebody to tell y0u that the TVA never created one job.
    that is correct - all it did was crowd out private companies that had been seeking to provide the same service.

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