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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by mbig View Post
    Sure it can.

    OCTOBER 5, 2011, 1:58 P.M. ET
    Senate Democrats Propose 5% Surtax on Millionaires
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    Out of .1% T-bills and into Needed, real-infrastructure Jobs. (if correctly spent/executed)
    let's instead base income and capital gains taxes on a person's total wealth, not just income.


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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    let's instead base income and capital gains taxes on a person's total wealth, not just income.

    It's difficult to Tax and assess wealth yearly.
    I don't think wealth should be taxed that way.
    That's why we have the one-time/last-time wealth tax, the Estate Tax.
    Put the money back in play.

    We can, thru the use of Income tax however, abate the Billion dollar Bubbles from being accumulated in the first place.
    ergo we had 70%-90% top rates for Half a century
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/econom...post1059220592
    before Reagan cut it from 70% in 1980 to 28% by 1986.
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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    For the life of me I don't understand why people would want to tax 'wealth'. As if they were completey unaware of the slippery slope. As if the government tends to deliver a great a job, doesn't waste money like no tomorrow.

    Before you know it you'll be paying 90% as well, on your wealth, so you can sell your 'assets', like your home.

    As for the OP. Yeah, the government can create jobs you'll always have to pay for. In that aspect, you need a lot of jobs before the government can start to 'create' any.

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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    I think your point here is being mostly missed.

    Perhaps those who don't get it will get it if it is rephrased to question whether government taking wealth out of the economy that would have created three jobs in the private sector, and spending it a manner that creates two government-funded jobs, can really be said to be “creating jobs”.
    That isn't what the OP asks. It clearly asks if the government can create jobs. I'm still waiting for a reasoned justification as to why it can't.
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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    The police provide a service....all govt jobs provide service ...private sector jobs profit is job one..and if less service provides more profit than you get less service for the more cost...smaller candy bar syndrome...could you even imagine if police and fire were profit driven...how would you offer competition to keep costs down...you cant compare public and private sector jobs....
    Nor have I compared the two AND I stated they have value. Not the point. Government jobs are not self sustaining. That is all. A police force is not self sustaining. A private security force is.
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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Nor have I compared the two AND I stated they have value. Not the point. Government jobs are not self sustaining. That is all. A police force is not self sustaining. A private security force is.
    A private security force costs more money than the US military. So, if it takes more taxpayers money to hire private security forces, how is this not less sustainable than the US military.
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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    A private security force costs more money than the US military. So, if it takes more taxpayers money to hire private security forces, how is this not less sustainable than the US military.
    I actually know some guys (loosely) who own one of those private security forces. Holy ****. They made so much money off of the Iraq war it is embarrassing.

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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Nor have I compared the two AND I stated they have value. Not the point. Government jobs are not self sustaining. That is all. A police force is not self sustaining. A private security force is.
    The Hoover dam is self sustaining.

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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    government creates lots of jobs: Military, bureaucracy, etc

    whether that is a good thing or a bad thing is subject to much debate.
    It creates no product and therefore no money........with out taking money from workers who produce a necessary and useable product needed to sustain life these government service jobs could not exist.

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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    government creates lots of jobs: Military, bureaucracy, etc

    whether that is a good thing or a bad thing is subject to much debate.
    ****. I can't argue with that.

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