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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    thank you yes precisely?

    "With respect to the two words 'general welfare,' I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." --James Madison


    or, if you like, we can discuss the Federalist Papers, where they made themselves even more plain about the very limited power of the federal government?
    Thankfully, the Constitution did not specify that its interpretation be left up to you, but rather to the Supreme court.
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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by atrasicarius View Post
    How can you tell?
    Click on the numbers. It shows who actually voted. It's pretty obvious the losing side of this debate has once again resorted to spamming a public poll. Considering the "strength" of their arguments, it does make sense they didn't have the intellect to figure out it's a public poll.
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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Seems to me liberal minded folks would full on embrace that strategy.
    Yet that doesn't happen here. You'd expect in polls about gun control where liberals tend to get trounced, we'd see this type of immature spamming. I can't think of a single poll where that happened. Generally, and this is borne out by numerous polls, the hyper partisan self proclaimed rightists tend to do the immature spamming. Furthermore, generally it's those people who don't realize that polls can (and often are) made public.
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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    The President said it would create jobs. It not only lost those new jobs, but lost the old ones too. That's not good.
    And that disproves you are wrong how?

    You claimed that the firm was created by the government. You are wrong on that. Rather then admit you are wrong, you change the subject.

    Do you really want to get branded as someone very dishonest? Did you really expect me not to notice what you were trying to pull there?

    You CLAIM be a conservative, but you apparently hold no respect for the belief in self responsibility.
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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    And that disproves you are wrong how?

    You claimed that the firm was created by the government. You are wrong on that. Rather then admit you are wrong, you change the subject.

    Do you really want to get branded as someone very dishonest? Did you really expect me not to notice what you were trying to pull there?

    You CLAIM be a conservative, but you apparently hold no respect for the belief in self responsibility.
    I went back to find the posting to which you were referring. In the posting, I said "The jobs were created..." It was an inadvertent error. I should have said and meant to say "Jobs were created..." The statement is actually factually correct. It depends on what jobs I was talking about and, of course, it had to do with those created after the loan. I understand why you did not understand as I was not clear. Sorry for not being clear. If you would like to sue me, please don't file it in Federal court. The Feds cannot afford it. They have guaranteed too many bad loans.

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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Yet that doesn't happen here. You'd expect in polls about gun control where liberals tend to get trounced, we'd see this type of immature spamming. I can't think of a single poll where that happened. Generally, and this is borne out by numerous polls, the hyper partisan self proclaimed rightists tend to do the immature spamming. Furthermore, generally it's those people who don't realize that polls can (and often are) made public.
    Or it could mean that there really are that many people taking the opposition position and there isnt the occasional person stuffing the ballot box. Nah...you are right. People should have to properly identify themselves before they vote.

    Polls are silly exercises in futility.

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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by CompSciGuy View Post
    Of course government can create jobs. It's a fact. Government jobs wouldn't exist otherwise. I think the OP needs a more specific question
    All I know is...I got paid regularly for 27 yrs as a police officer and it was the local govt that signed my check...

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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You assume too much.
    you have advocated slashing the DOD budget by 2/3rds, yes?

    last year, we paid out $257 Billion in retirees pension and health benefits.

    IOW, it is virtually impossible to cut DOD spending by 2/3rds without deeply cutting pay, pension, healthcare, etc. to our active duty and retirees.

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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Thankfully, the Constitution did not specify that its interpretation be left up to you,
    it wasn't me - it was James Madison. the father of the Constitution? the guy who wrote the passage in question?

    but rather to the Supreme court.
    really? fascinating - where did it specify that?
    Last edited by cpwill; 09-30-11 at 09:48 AM.

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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    All I know is...I got paid regularly for 27 yrs as a police officer and it was the local govt that signed my check...
    Since your police force didnt turn a profit you werent generating revenues. The citizens that worked private sector jobs were taxed for appropriate services. Without the private sector jobs, there would not have been enough money to pay for the local gov salaries.

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