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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    All I can suggest is you vote for the libertarian candidate that shares your views. With your support, who knows, they may just break the 1% of voters mark next year!
    As it stands, I will. You feel free to continue to voting for your republicrats...and should you HAVE grandchildren...BEG their forgiveness, but OWN your role in the debt hell you have saddled them with.

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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    As it stands, I will. You feel free to continue to voting for your republicrats...and should you HAVE grandchildren...BEG their forgiveness, but OWN your role in the debt hell you have saddled them with.
    I dont know vance..I wouldve voted for Ron Paul if he didnt want to legalize all drugs and give my grandchildren a better shot at being junkies...The fiscal side of libertarians is acceptable the social side is nuts

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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    As it stands, I will. You feel free to continue to voting for your republicrats...and should you HAVE grandchildren...BEG their forgiveness, but OWN your role in the debt hell you have saddled them with.
    The little bit of the debt I have supported enables a better future for my grandchildren. Those that supported optional unfunded wars, a bloated military for the last decade, and tax cuts for the rich are the ones that will have to beg for forgiveness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I dont know vance..I wouldve voted for Ron Paul if he didnt want to legalize all drugs and give my grandchildren a better shot at being junkies...The fiscal side of libertarians is acceptable the social side is nuts
    I get that. I wish they would get rid of the drug plank in their national platform. (of course...when I say such things I quickly get reminded by the 'real' libertarians that I cant be a 'real' libertarian).

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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The little bit of the debt I have supported enables a better future for my grandchildren. Those that supported optional unfunded wars, a bloated military for the last decade, and tax cuts for the rich are the ones that will have to beg for forgiveness.
    You support democrats...sorry...you own it just as much as every pure republican voter. You both support republicrats. You both elect people that spend future generations money like crack whores. You own it. Be proud.

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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You support democrats...sorry...you own it just as much as every pure republican voter. You both support republicrats. You both elect people that spend future generations money like crack whores. You own it. Be proud.
    I supported the majority of Democrats who opposed our war with Iraq and the tax cuts for the rich. If there were more liberal candidates that had a chance of winning, I would vote for them. Like it or not, all our candidates are too far to the right, so I choose those that are the least to the right and still have a chance of winning. That is the Democrats.
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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I get that. I wish they would get rid of the drug plank in their national platform. (of course...when I say such things I quickly get reminded by the 'real' libertarians that I cant be a 'real' libertarian).
    and thats exactly whats wrong with them in my opinion

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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    CHILD

    No one denies infrastructure is necessary.
    Have you seen your own posts?

    No one denies there are levels of necessary spending.
    Zero?

    My earlier comments stand...I will create MILLIONS of jobs. I will send out armies of people to pick up trash...perform free babysitting, clean graffiti. All YOU have to do is give me the money. We wont charge anyone for the service (other than you-and dont worry...if you dont have the money you can pass the cost on to your kids...and your grandkids). You wont get a say in who I hire or what I have them do. We wont show a profit. But hey...THEY will have jobs. And your grandchildren will be stuck with the bill. Who cares how much it costs?
    Except that isn't your argument. You basically characterize the entire government as those workers. Hence why you're not doing well right now. From NASA engineers producing new materials and new construction methods to mail carriers, they are all the same to you.

    Hey, Obviously a Child...your tax argument aside...how much sustained national debt will your grandchildren be paying for the LAST round of 'stimulus' debt? Long term thinking (or...just...you know...thinking) not really a strong suit for ya huh?
    Lots. There's no question about that. But it's better to pay more in taxes to pay for stimulus spending then to be poor and live in absolute poverty from an economic collapse. You still have not addressed my argument. And I don't think you want me getting really nasty to you, so how about you mature up and drop the partisan ****?

    You haven't addressed why the 200K number is for retards. You going to be retard and keep using it?

    Lets see...400 billion (rounded down) added to the last 800 billion...added to the existing debt
    800 billion over 30 years isn't that much divided by the population. Furthermore, refinancing as Clinton did should bring it down the net interest significantly.

    plus the reduction in credit rating
    Which actually did nothing. Yields actually went down after that on government debt. Or were you completely unaware of that? I can start being really mean to you. Or you can start acting like an adult.

    Tell me, what good is the economy if it does not exist? Simple question. Try.
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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Of course the government can create jobs. Hopefully someday it will take its diaper off and self fund itself like a real business and leave me the f alone.
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    Re: Government can't create jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Come again? Solyndra existed prior to the loan.

    If the jobs at Solyndra were created by the Federal government, then it would first be a government agency and all the money would have been from the government. That is not the case.

    You going to start using facts or just keep blabbering?
    I was just going by what President Obama said. If he lied, don't blame me.

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