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  • Yes, it's a commodity subject to the market of wages offered

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    Re: Is Labor a Commodity?

    Freedom is good. Rand sure bothers those who think they are entitled to the wealth of others.



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    Re: Is Labor a Commodity?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Freedom is good. Rand sure bothers those who think they are entitled to the wealth of others.
    By those who think they are entitled to the wealth of others you mean rich investors who don't create wealth themselves, but feel entitled to it, right?

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    Re: Is Labor a Commodity?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Freedom is good. Rand sure bothers those who think they are entitled to the wealth of others.
    Rand bothers people who demand more than bumper sticker slogans and hollow self serving cliches and those obsessed with their own selfish interests over those of the larger society.
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    Re: Is Labor a Commodity?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    By those who think they are entitled to the wealth of others you mean rich investors who don't create wealth themselves, but feel entitled to it, right?
    No that is a stupid comment. an investing does help create wealth.

    are you mad at those who invest and make money? that you somehow equate that to being given money coerced from others by the government is rather sick



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    Re: Is Labor a Commodity?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Rand bothers people who demand more than bumper sticker slogans and hollow self serving cliches and those obsessed with their own selfish interests over those of the larger society.
    yeah your leftwing ideals are "complex" because you say so and we who oppose them are "simple" I suppose

    you want your side to win elections. that is no more complex than we who want your dem masters to lose



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    Re: Is Labor a Commodity?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yeah your leftwing ideals are "complex" because you say so and we who oppose them are "simple" I suppose

    you want your side to win elections. that is no more complex than we who want your dem masters to lose
    I do not remember saying anything to you about simple and complex as to ideals. What I specifically said was that your invocation of FREEDOM was a hollow cliche that belonged on a bumper sticker or lapel pin since it is devoid of any real meaning without context or as part of a material discussion on an actual issue.

    I hope that clears it up.
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    Re: Is Labor a Commodity?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I do not remember saying anything to you about simple and complex as to ideals. What I specifically said was that your invocation of FREEDOM was a hollow cliche that belonged on a bumper sticker or lapel pin since it is devoid of any real meaning without context or as part of a material discussion on an actual issue.

    I hope that clears it up.
    Freedom scares many people. The thought of having to make it on your own terrifies many of those who are comfortably sucking on the public teat or those who pander to such people.

    and to pretend that only us advocates of Freedom use "bumper sticker" slogans is both inaccurate and dishonest



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    Re: Is Labor a Commodity?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Freedom scares many people. The thought of having to make it on your own terrifies many of those who are comfortably sucking on the public teat or those who pander to such people.

    and to pretend that only us advocates of Freedom use "bumper sticker" slogans is both inaccurate and dishonest
    What scares me are right wingers with demonstrated fascist tendencies who are more than willing to use hollow slogans, bumper sticker pontifications and lapel pin over simplifications to win and keep power instead of actually discussing weighty matters of public policy with verifiable evidence to support their claims and allegations.

    But thats just my own pet peeve like some people don't like smoking or loud farting in public.
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    Re: Is Labor a Commodity?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What scares me are right wingers with demonstrated fascist tendencies who are more than willing to use hollow slogans, bumper sticker pontifications and lapel pin over simplifications to win and keep power instead of actually discussing weighty matters of public policy with verifiable evidence to support their claims and allegations.

    But thats just my own pet peeve like some people don't like smoking or loud farting in public.
    fascist tendencies? Like saying that the rich should grovel at the feet of the masses to keep the wealth that they honestly and fairly earned? The american right is far more removed from fascist tendencies than the collectivist left



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    Re: Is Labor a Commodity?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    fascist tendencies? Like saying that the rich should grovel at the feet of the masses to keep the wealth that they honestly and fairly earned? The american right is far more removed from fascist tendencies than the collectivist left
    Translation: I have no idea what the difference between fascism and authoritarian socialism is. I'll give you a hint: fascism is a right wing ideology.
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