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    Re: Should we legalize sexual freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    There doesn't seem to be a way to safely regulate it as long. As long as there is poverty in the world, there will be people who exploit others with promises of gainful employment and then force them into sexual servitude. IMO, there would never be enough people (to keep up with demand) who freely choose to sell their bodies for money so there will always be an incentive to force others to do it.
    We need to try something. Keeping it illegal is not working and we still have lots of women being exploited and forced into sexual servitude, even in this country. Legalizing and regulating it at least gives those who are being forced into it a chance to contact others, especially authorities, without facing criminal penalties of any kind, especially if they weren't initially forced to sell sex.
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    Re: Should we legalize sexual freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    We need to try something. Keeping it illegal is not working and we still have lots of women being exploited and forced into sexual servitude, even in this country. Legalizing and regulating it at least gives those who are being forced into it a chance to contact others, especially authorities, without facing criminal penalties of any kind, especially if they weren't initially forced to sell sex.
    "We need to try something" is just about the worst justification one can find for anything.

    Keeping murder illegal is not working, as demonstrated by the fact that people are still murdering others. Maybe we should legalize murder and regulate it?
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    Re: Should we legalize sexual freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    "We need to try something" is just about the worst justification one can find for anything.

    Keeping murder illegal is not working, as demonstrated by the fact that people are still murdering others. Maybe we should legalize murder and regulate it?
    Not the same thing. Murder is always taking away another person's life without their consent. If there was known consent, it would be called "assisted suicide".

    Prostitution, on the other hand, can most certainly involve consenting parties who are not doing anything that other people are not doing. The only difference being that those others who are doing the activity are not doing it purely as a business transaction. Sex takes place between consenting adults all the time, yet the only time it is illegal is if it is done so in exchange for money. A person can buy another person a "gift" and get sex for it, fully believing that sex is expected in exchange for that "gift", but as long as the transaction doesn't involve an actual oral declaration of that expectation, it is completely legal.

    It should be legalized for more than just "keeping it illegal isn't working", but that doesn't change the truth to my statement.
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    Re: Should we legalize sexual freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Not the same thing. Murder is always taking away another person's life without their consent. If there was known consent, it would be called "assisted suicide".

    Prostitution, on the other hand, can most certainly involve consenting parties who are not doing anything that other people are not doing. The only difference being that those others who are doing the activity are not doing it purely as a business transaction. Sex takes place between consenting adults all the time, yet the only time it is illegal is if it is done so in exchange for money. A person can buy another person a "gift" and get sex for it, fully believing that sex is expected in exchange for that "gift", but as long as the transaction doesn't involve an actual oral declaration of that expectation, it is completely legal.

    It should be legalized for more than just "keeping it illegal isn't working", but that doesn't change the truth to my statement.
    Your facts are wrong. People can be convicted of prostitution even if there is not oral declaration. Also, you can give an organ to another (just as you can give sex to them) but you can't sell it to them. The govt has a right to regulate economic transactions.

    We do need to do more about prostitution, but legalizing it isn't doing more; it's doing less.
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    Re: Should we legalize sexual freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Your facts are wrong. People can be convicted of prostitution even if there is not oral declaration. Also, you can give an organ to another (just as you can give sex to them) but you can't sell it to them. The govt has a right to regulate economic transactions.

    We do need to do more about prostitution, but legalizing it isn't doing more; it's doing less.
    There is nothing inherently wrong with prostitution. If a person wants to charge money to people who are willing to pay to have sex, it should be legal. The government should not be regulating economic transaction just for the purpose of regulating sex.

    The problems that come from legalizing it are the same problems that are there when it is illegal, except that with it being legal, the prostitutes are able to actually get help for them, instead of having to worry about being charged with something themselves.
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    Re: Should we legalize sexual freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    There is nothing inherently wrong with prostitution. If a person wants to charge money to people who are willing to pay to have sex, it should be legal. The government should not be regulating economic transaction just for the purpose of regulating sex.

    The problems that come from legalizing it are the same problems that are there when it is illegal, except that with it being legal, the prostitutes are able to actually get help for them, instead of having to worry about being charged with something themselves.
    Prostitution encourages organized crime, drug trafficking, child trafficking and the oppression of poor people
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    Re: Should we legalize sexual freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Prostitution encourages organized crime, drug trafficking, child trafficking and the oppression of poor people
    That stuff already exists. It is like saying "comprehensive sex education encourages teens to have sex". It is a ridiculous belief.

    There are places that make legal prostitution work. And there are things that can be done to help prevent those things from happening. Registering and licensing all prostitutes. In order to get a license, a person must submit to drug tests and STD exams on some regular basis. An age restriction on licenses that requires proof. Actually check out applications for immigrants applying for visas into this country who are seeking asylum and/or work visa to ensure they are legitimately deserved and likely not going to become victims of sex traders. Regular checks on establishments that are licensed as brothels, etc. to help ensure that prostitutes are not being treated bad and able to get assistance right away for violence against them or anything else they need. Support for all prostitutes to ensure that they are given help when needed, whether for abuse, legal needs, pregnancy, or to get another job.
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    Re: Should we legalize sexual freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    There doesn't seem to be a way to safely regulate it as long. As long as there is poverty in the world, there will be people who exploit others with promises of gainful employment and then force them into sexual servitude. IMO, there would never be enough people (to keep up with demand) who freely choose to sell their bodies for money so there will always be an incentive to force others to do it.

    Uhm you mean just like it does NOW? but after its legalized it would do less because it would be regulated.

    Legalizing it will make it legal and safer.
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    Re: Should we legalize sexual freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    That stuff already exists. It is like saying "comprehensive sex education encourages teens to have sex". It is a ridiculous belief.

    There are places that make legal prostitution work. And there are things that can be done to help prevent those things from happening. Registering and licensing all prostitutes. In order to get a license, a person must submit to drug tests and STD exams on some regular basis. An age restriction on licenses that requires proof. Actually check out applications for immigrants applying for visas into this country who are seeking asylum and/or work visa to ensure they are legitimately deserved and likely not going to become victims of sex traders. Regular checks on establishments that are licensed as brothels, etc. to help ensure that prostitutes are not being treated bad and able to get assistance right away for violence against them or anything else they need. Support for all prostitutes to ensure that they are given help when needed, whether for abuse, legal needs, pregnancy, or to get another job.
    What places make legalized prostitution work?
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    Re: Should we legalize sexual freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by O_Guru View Post
    Uhm you mean just like it does NOW? but after its legalized it would do less because it would be regulated.

    Legalizing it will make it legal and safer.
    Saying that doesn't make it true, no matter how many times you repeat it. Amsterdams experience demonstrates the faulty logic, and they regulate it and do all the other things that the "legalize it" crowd say we should do
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