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    Re: Should we legalize sexual freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by David D. View Post
    Are they actually still enforced? If so, how?

    Maybe by secret gov't peeping toms?
    They're still on the books, but not enforced. They should be removed from the books whether enforced or not.

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    Re: Should we legalize sexual freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by David D. View Post
    Do you mean all of those people engaging at once in a big group, or just each example on their own (two siblings, parent and adult child... ect)?
    If you are for sexual freedom does it matter just as long as they consenting adults?
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    Re: Should we legalize sexual freedom?

    I wanted to address the incest issue. First, I find it totally revolting and would never do it under any circumstances. Second, the consenting adults standard still applies. Incestuous rape should remain illegal because consent is not present. Sex with a child is also out because a child cannot consent whether related or not. That leaves related adults. IMO it's completely gross, but they should be allowed to have sexual relations if they choose to. It's not that I'm recommending it. It's just that I don't think it's the government's role to prohibit consenting adults from doing what they want in privacy. It's true that people too closely related are at higher risk of genetically deficient offspring. However, most sex is not for reproduction. Most sex happens with birth control and no intent for offspring. And many people have had their tubes tied or are older and cannot reproduce. There's also a higher risk of defects in reproduction between people who aren't related, but just have lousy genes. They should not be prohibited from having sex either.

    Yes, incest is abhorrent to most people. However, it's also a case where the government should just butt out and let people make their own choices.

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    Re: Should we legalize sexual freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I think it's bad for society and for the law to view sex as a purchasable commodity. It degrades the human body, encourages sexual immorality, and still would not outlaw illegal prostitution. If a pimp has to pay taxes for prostitution, pay to have them drug tested, and if clients have to pay to be drug tested themselves to prove they won't spread disease will result in a price hike. Illegal markets will still be around because they can offer sex for less.
    The appropriate action for such feelings is to find prostitutes, discover their reason for engaging in the trade (usually desperation), and help them. Driving them into the dens of pimps who will brutalize and exploit them (sometimes to the point of murder) because of your personal notions of righteous sexual conduct is wrong.

    Rule of thumb: don't try to prevent people from performing actions that they have reasoned are right for themselves, unless you are willing (and able) to take responsibility for their needs yourself.

    It's worth noting, I believe prostitution is wrong for the reasons you described, but neither of us has the moral authority to make that decision for other human beings. No one gave us that authority, and we were not born with it.
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    Re: Should we legalize sexual freedom?

    Yes all sex between consenting adults should be legal.

    "I" may not like it
    "I" may not want to participate

    but

    "I" also understand thats such matter are non of my business.


    now on to prostitution

    Yes this should be legal too, it should be regulated just like other business.
    Make it safer and cleaner and take the money and put it to good use. Health Care, Crime etc

    I just could never find any logic to make it illegal?

    I mean I could come over and mow your lawn, dig you a ditch, message you, cut your hair,even model nude for you as long as it wasn't for SEXUAL PLEASURE and legally charge you. but if my penis touches you ILLEGAL!!!!!! lol thats non-sense.

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    Re: Should we legalize sexual freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    I wanted to address the incest issue. First, I find it totally revolting and would never do it under any circumstances. Second, the consenting adults standard still applies. Incestuous rape should remain illegal because consent is not present. Sex with a child is also out because a child cannot consent whether related or not. That leaves related adults. IMO it's completely gross, but they should be allowed to have sexual relations if they choose to. It's not that I'm recommending it. It's just that I don't think it's the government's role to prohibit consenting adults from doing what they want in privacy. It's true that people too closely related are at higher risk of genetically deficient offspring. However, most sex is not for reproduction. .
    You are not worried that tv shows and talk shows will try to normalize incestuous relationships like they do with homosexuals and trannys and the consequences inbreeding could have on society?


    Most sex happens with birth control and no intent for offspring. And many people have had their tubes tied or are older and cannot reproduce. There's also a higher risk of defects in reproduction between people who aren't related, but just have lousy genes. They should not be prohibited from having sex either.

    Yes, incest is abhorrent to most people. However, it's also a case where the government should just butt out and let people make their own choices
    Thats why we have over million abortions a year and a high rate of stds because people are careful about using protection
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    Re: Should we legalize sexual freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You are not worried that tv shows and talk shows will try to normalize incestuous relationships like they do with homosexuals and trannys and the consequences inbreeding could have on society?
    The TV talk shows can talk about whatever they want. It's known as free speech. And homosexual relationships are legitimate and normal relationships that we should accept.

    Thats why we have over million abortions a year and a high rate of stds because people are careful about using protection[/QUOTE]

    On that basis, should we also ban sex between non-related people who have lousy genes?

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    Re: Should we legalize sexual freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    The TV talk shows can talk about whatever they want. It's known as free speech. And homosexual relationships are legitimate and normal relationships that we should accept.
    Are incestuous relations legitimate and normal as homosexual relationships are?

    On that basis, should we also ban sex between non-related people who have lousy genes?
    This is not a eugenics discussion.
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    Re: Should we legalize sexual freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Are incestuous relations legitimate and normal as homosexual relationships are?
    Legitimate and normal to who?
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    Re: Should we legalize sexual freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    No. Mostly because we cannot trust the majority of adults to maintain things in private. These things go from being private to being public too easily.

    I'm no prude. I enjoy sex as much as the next person; even some of the more unusual forms of sexual expression. I just don't believe that most people are capable of keeping it in private, and therefore we need to restrict what can and cannot be done.
    Wait a minute. You're Very Conservative, and you're not a prude (even enjoying strange forms of sex)? I believe I just heard liberal minds exploding everywhere.
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