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    Re: Should we legalize sexual freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Most of what I feel about this subject has already been well represented. I believe any sexual contact between consenting adults should be legal, including prostitution (which, along with The War On Drugs, is part of the Law Enforcement Employment Protection Act).

    Some of the hysterics in this thread have been, well, hysterical. The idea that if prostitution is made legal that crime syndicates will leap in and create sex trafficking rings. Ridiculous. First of all, sex trafficking involves non-consentual activity. Second, there are all ready sex trafficking rings operating right here in the good old U.S. of A. They are illegal now, and would remain illegal if prostitution was legalized. They would, however, be less profitable. Crime syndicates and cartels prosper by providing illegal goods and services for which a demand exists. Make prostitution legal, poof. Customers have a clean and legal service to access, and are less likely to utilize the terrified, tear-stained sex slave who takes man after man after man without so much as a sponge bath in between. Well run bordellos can provide clean, medically-certified women who choose prostitution as a career. Frankly, legalization takes a bite out of crime rather than enhancing it.

    Now the old in-breeding hysteria. "OMG! If incest isn't illegal, brothers and sisters will be banging Mom, Dad and Grampa every damned day, because there ain't no law against it any more!!" Really? The fact that incest is illegal really stops related individuals from having sexual relations in private now? No, it does not. Will millions of sex-starved citizens suddenly leap the bones of their parents or siblings just because they won't go to jail for doing so? Oh hell no! 99% of people would literally get nauseous at the very thought. So what we are really doing is making incest illegal for the 1% or less of individuals, including distant cousins, who might actually be attracted to a relative. My question... so ****ing what if they are? It's none of our damned business.

    The only reasons to keep prostitution illegal is because of religious reasons, individual morality, and to keep vice law enforcement officers off the lay-off list.

    We as a nation need to flush laws that prohibit what consenting adults can do with each other or ingest in their own bodies, and concentrate on crime that is inflicted on non-consenting victims. Period.
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    Re: Should we legalize sexual freedom?

    BBC NEWS | Programmes | From Our Own Correspondent | Trafficked to the West

    Last summer, she had been approached by a childhood friend, she told me.

    He said he knew someone who was recruiting women to work as prostitutes in Holland.

    Prostitution is illegal in Lithuania, but in Holland he said, she would make big money. Trusting him, she agreed.

    Within weeks she arrived in Holland - only to find herself a prisoner in a brothel - sold by her friend to a Lithuanian gang.

    For months she endured beatings, sexual abuse and a constant stream of clients.

    She saw little of the money she had been promised. When she escaped back to Lithuania her childhood friend tipped off the gang members.

    They beat her so badly, she almost died. Today she is in hiding, terrified that her attackers will return.
    Canada Considers Further Legalizing Prostitution While Amsterdam Mayor Admits Legalization’s Failure | LifeSiteNews.com
    Policemen in Amsterdam’s infamous red light district were quoted by Dutch media Friday as saying, “We are in the midst of modern slavery.” Due to the legalization of prostitution in the Netherlands in 2000, police are hampered in confronting the horrors that are characteristic of the sex trade.

    Even Amsterdam mayor Job Cohen, who as recently as four months ago was quoted in the media as praising the legalization of prostitution has been forced to admit the scheme’s failure.“Almost five years after the lifting of the brothel ban, we have to acknowledge that the aims of the law have not been reached”, said Cohen, as quoted by NCR. “Lately we’ve received more and more signals that abuse still continues.”
    2005 Country Report on Human Rights Practices in the Netherlands

    Most traffickers used threats of violence to the victim, or to the
    victim's family, to control their victims
    . Underage girls and young women of
    Moroccan and Turkish descent (mostly lover boy victims), underage asylum
    seekers, women with a dependent residence status (pseudo marriage), and women
    recruited in Africa were most vulnerable to becoming victims of trafficking.
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    Re: Should we legalize sexual freedom?

    Most of this should fall under states' rights - probably even under a smaller, more limited level - maybe a county or district, etc. Strip bars (and regular bars for that matter) are often legislated that way. If I want to live in an area with legalized prostitution, gay marriage, etc., then I should be able to do so if there are enough others that want to live the same way without moving out of the USA. But, if I don't want to live in an area that promotes certain behavior, I shouldn't have to move out of the USA (or really my state), either.

    Personally, I'd like my kids to grow up believing that the sex is something shared between a man and women (the way the body naturally works) preferably in the context of a happy marriage (the way healthy relationships usually work). I don't have a problem with people doing what they want to do, I just don't like pretending that I think it's wise long term behavior.

    A guy wants to satisfy the emptiness in his life termporarily with a one-night stand? A prostitute may be socially healthier than tricking a gal into thinking it'll end up being more. But, as Frightened Rabbit says you can't "Keep Yourself Warm" that way. I'd rather the place I live reflect my basic values. I'm sure, those who want to raise their kids in a more socially liberal atmosphere feel the same way. So, I think it comes down to states' rights - the US is too big for everyone to agree on morality (or the lack thereof). If you want a prostitute - do it in secret or go to Vegas (or whatever new town legalizes it). If it's legalized where I live, I might move somewhere else.
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    People who want society to reflect their personal moral beliefs are not only annoying, but they are one of the biggest threats to liberty.
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    Re: Should we legalize sexual freedom?

    I believe that sex requires love and what you do with the one you love is private and limited only by what the two of you consent to, and love the way I see it has no limits.

    I have been betrayed by two women that I am aware of and they both turned out to be major liars, and cheaters.

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    Re: Should we legalize sexual freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    People who want society to reflect their personal moral beliefs are not only annoying, but they are one of the biggest threats to liberty.
    Morals are not just what them thar bible thumpers thumping they Harry Potter books, trying to get you to join their church, knocking on your doors and singing praise Jebus. You do realize that almost all laws are based on someone's morals and that it is not restricted to just people with religious views but atheists as well? Laws against stealing, murder, rape and many others are based on someone's personal view of right and wrong.


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    Re: Should we legalize sexual freedom?

    I believe this is a "taboo" within our christian based society. If you really sit down and think on hours on who and what's going on around you, it would seem to be one big fake hypocrisy. But then again, the labeled "dark side" of our society only exists because it feels an unfulfilled need. Whether is love, sex, money, excitement, escape, etc.. Something to ponder.
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    Re: Should we legalize sexual freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    I believe that sex requires love.
    I suppose that's why its a belief and not a fact.

    It's a novel idea, and one I like myself, but its not reality.

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    Re: Should we legalize sexual freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    People who want society to reflect their personal moral beliefs are not only annoying, but they are one of the biggest threats to liberty.
    Everyone wants a portion of society to reflect their personal moral beliefs. People who insult people for having beliefs are annoying. Everyone has beliefs. And, again, I think there should be a place for most of what's been discussed in this thread. I just don't think it can be one-country-fits-all. Smaller geographical areas are needed.

    I'll give you an example of how I know that everyone wants society to reflect their own beliefs. No one teaches their kids to believe things that they have grown, over a lifetime of experience, to believe are wrong. The most liberally minded might encourage their kids not to be biased by anyone and to only think for themselves. But, even then, the kids will gravitate toward the way their parents think until faced with realities of life and experience that convince them of their own moral "truths" and most of those parents will be very disappointed if the kids end up being, by their definition, "narrow minded".

    Another example - you want people to believe what you believe. You try to make that happen by scoffing at people like me. I'm not trying to convince you to live by what I've learned. I'm just suggesting that we'd each be happier with some things not in view of our kid's schools or in our own face 24/7. I would personally choose a more conservative community to live in. You might personally choose Vegas. We should each have a choice.
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    Re: Should we legalize sexual freedom?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Laws against stealing, murder, rape and many others are based on someone's personal view of right and wrong.
    Those laws are actually more about safety.

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