View Poll Results: Is alcohol abuse a disability; do you agree or disagree with the EEOC?

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  • I agree alcohol abuse is a disability, I agree with the EEOC position

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  • I agree alcohol abuse is a disability, I disagree with the EEOC position

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  • I disagree that alcohol abuse is a disability, I agree with the EEOC position

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Thread: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    Someone would have to smoke a lot of weed for it to impair long term memory. It's extremely unlikely.
    Unless, of course, I'm repeating something. Repeating a phrase that is very, very important. What important phrase in this discussion am I repeating? Long term memory? No. Long term use? Yes.

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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Alcoholism is an excuse to come into work late, because would you rather have them come into work drunk and put themselves or others in danger?

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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    Someone would have to smoke a lot of weed for it to impair long term memory. It's extremely unlikely.
    I believe you are correct. It is short term memory that weed impairs.
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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Unless, of course, I'm repeating something. Repeating a phrase that is very, very important. What important phrase in this discussion am I repeating? Long term memory? No. Long term use? Yes.
    no, it doesn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fleshofthegods View Post
    Alcoholism is an excuse to come into work late, because would you rather have them come into work drunk and put themselves or others in danger?
    It'd rather them not come in at all.
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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    So what would be the company's options? They can't fire the guy, and if they give him another position he doesn't like, he can bitch about it being "retaliatory."
    *yawn*

    If they gave him a job with equal pay, there would be no case. The issue here seems to be if his being given a lower-paying job is a form of retaliation or is it a "reasonable accomodation"

    It has nothing to do with whether he likes the job. That is a straw man.
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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Based on my knowledge discoursing marijuana, it does impair the memory after long-term use. Tomorrow if I'm using my laptop I can post some links. Don't take my word for it.
    Oy vey!

    Do you realize that "impairing memory after long term use" is not the same as "impairing long-term memory"?

    Long term use of pot can cause problems with short-term memory
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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fleshofthegods View Post
    Alcoholism is an excuse to come into work late, because would you rather have them come into work drunk and put themselves or others in danger?
    The ADA does not protect poor work performance. Even the disabled can be fired for poor performance. The ADA prohibits firing somone simply because they are disabled
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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Oy vey!

    Do you realize that "impairing memory after long term use" is not the same as "impairing long-term memory"?
    Quote me where I said "long-term memory."

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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    *yawn*

    If they gave him a job with equal pay, there would be no case. The issue here seems to be if his being given a lower-paying job is a form of retaliation or is it a "reasonable accomodation"

    It has nothing to do with whether he likes the job. That is a straw man.
    What if the only job available was on a lower pay scale?
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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Quote me where I said "long-term memory."
    You've been unclear. You said that long-term use of pot causes "memory to fade" It doesn't. It causes a deterioration in the ability to form new memories. Your claim about fading memories implies an effect on long-term memory.
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