View Poll Results: Is alcohol abuse a disability; do you agree or disagree with the EEOC?

Voters
44. You may not vote on this poll
  • I agree alcohol abuse is a disability, I agree with the EEOC position

    4 9.09%
  • I agree alcohol abuse is a disability, I disagree with the EEOC position

    3 6.82%
  • I disagree that alcohol abuse is a disability, I agree with the EEOC position

    2 4.55%
  • I disagree that alcohol abuse is a disability, I disagree with the EEOC position

    25 56.82%
  • Rutabega

    3 6.82%
  • Other (Explain please)

    7 15.91%
Page 27 of 37 FirstFirst ... 172526272829 ... LastLast
Results 261 to 270 of 368

Thread: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

  1. #261
    Global Moderator
    I'm a Jedi Master, Yo

    CaptainCourtesy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:32 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    152,802

    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    There is a ton of evidence that it's in the best interest of a company to not allow an alcoholic drive their vehicles. If a Catholic priest said that he was attracted to little boys but hadn't actually molested any yet, would you allow him to run the day care center?

    What would happen if this information was known, they still allowed him to be around little boys and he did molest one?
    I've already destroyed and dismissed the "pedophile" argument as non-compatible and irrelevant. Try again.

    Such as?
    Read the thread. I've mentioned them several times.

    Not when the lawyers get involved.
    Lawyers don't decide cases. Judges and juries do.
    "Never fear. Him is here" - Captain Chaos (Dom DeLuise), Cannonball Run

    ====||:-D

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

  2. #262
    Global Moderator
    I'm a Jedi Master, Yo

    CaptainCourtesy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:32 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    152,802

    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Here is how it works. I ask you a question and you answer it. You then can ask another question but not until you answer the question posed to you first, so let's try again.

    If a priest admitted to an attraction to little boys, I would not allow him to run the church day care. Would you?
    Your question comparing a pedophile example has been proven non-comparable earlier in this thread, and is therefore irrelevant. There is no reason for anyone to answer a question that does not apply and instead tries to throw in a red herring.
    "Never fear. Him is here" - Captain Chaos (Dom DeLuise), Cannonball Run

    ====||:-D

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

  3. #263
    Global Moderator
    I'm a Jedi Master, Yo

    CaptainCourtesy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:32 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    152,802

    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    Lewstherin :

    The only difference is that you've latched on to a more emotionally charged example in order to engage in an appeal to emotion fallacy.

    My opinion is that if the driver is sober, then the driver is not violating laws or the terms of his employment. If you would argue otherwise, cite some studies that show the addiction alone is an impairment to driving performance even in the absence of the intoxicating substance. If that theory is supported by peer reviewed studies, I will reconsider.
    Excellent points.
    "Never fear. Him is here" - Captain Chaos (Dom DeLuise), Cannonball Run

    ====||:-D

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

  4. #264
    Sage

    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Goldsboro,PA
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:12 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    5,596
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    The poll results....
    Most believe that alcoholism is NOT a "disease"..
    BTW, when younger (20 plus years ago) I felt the same way....
    IMO, I am not qualified to respond in this area, even though my sister is an alcoholic, and we have discussed this....I do have the knowledge.... I still believe that only those with a degree in medicine and with personal alcoholic experience are qualified to respond...
    Are there any here that truly qualify ????
    Probably not, so, I say that in general opinion polls are worthless...

  5. #265
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Last Seen
    03-16-12 @ 11:02 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    7,624

    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I've already destroyed and dismissed the "pedophile" argument as non-compatible and irrelevant. Try again.
    So I guess this is two votes for allowing someone that admits they are attracted to little children run the day care.

  6. #266
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Last Seen
    03-16-12 @ 11:02 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    7,624

    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Your question comparing a pedophile example has been proven non-comparable earlier in this thread, and is therefore irrelevant. There is no reason for anyone to answer a question that does not apply and instead tries to throw in a red herring.
    Priest admits fantasising about boys on Skype - General News - Croatian Times Online News - English Newspaper

    Would you allow him to run the church day care if he agreed to counseling?

  7. #267
    pirate lover
    liblady's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    St Thomas, VI
    Last Seen
    03-14-16 @ 03:55 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    16,165
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    It's an addiction.

    is addiction a disability or disorder? Only if it's caused by some type of natural issue of the individual such as a health condition like a tumor or regulatory miscommunication in the body (which accounts for a small number of cases) - like, for those who are overweight - some suffer from Momo disease which is where their mind tells their body that they're hungry even when they aren't . . .leading to constant overeating. For tehse people their obesity is a side effect of an underlying issue. I can imagine that the same situation can happen for an alcoholic (etc) - but it's probably not very common.

    It, being an addiction for most, is a choice that has many consequences.
    alcoholism is a disease, period. that does not mean the company cannot set their own policies for drivers who abuse alcohol.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


  8. #268
    pirate lover
    liblady's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    St Thomas, VI
    Last Seen
    03-14-16 @ 03:55 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    16,165
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Enola View Post
    It's no more a disability than it is a frigging disease. It's a CHOICE.
    wrong, wrong, wrong. alcoholism is a disease. drinking is a choice.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


  9. #269
    Sage
    VanceMack's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 03:09 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    54,745

    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    The poll results....
    Most believe that alcoholism is NOT a "disease"..
    BTW, when younger (20 plus years ago) I felt the same way....
    IMO, I am not qualified to respond in this area, even though my sister is an alcoholic, and we have discussed this....I do have the knowledge.... I still believe that only those with a degree in medicine and with personal alcoholic experience are qualified to respond...
    Are there any here that truly qualify ????
    Probably not, so, I say that in general opinion polls are worthless...
    All polls are worthless. Im betting there are at least a few here that would satisfy your definition of being 'qualified' to respond. Their responses will still be opinions based on personal and professional experience and examanition of research. Strictly speaking, the medical model states alcoholism = disease. From a reality perspective...following the medical model basically ensures the alcoholic remains a lifelong alcoholic.

  10. #270
    Educator lewstherin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Indianapolis, IN
    Last Seen
    10-28-11 @ 02:29 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    719

    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    All polls are worthless. Im betting there are at least a few here that would satisfy your definition of being 'qualified' to respond. Their responses will still be opinions based on personal and professional experience and examanition of research. Strictly speaking, the medical model states alcoholism = disease. From a reality perspective...following the medical model basically ensures the alcoholic remains a lifelong alcoholic.
    for most people, the only polls that are "worthless" are the ones that disagree with their opinion on a matter.
    “The ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination.”
    http://www.indylevee.com/

Page 27 of 37 FirstFirst ... 172526272829 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •