View Poll Results: Is alcohol abuse a disability; do you agree or disagree with the EEOC?

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  • I agree alcohol abuse is a disability, I agree with the EEOC position

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  • I agree alcohol abuse is a disability, I disagree with the EEOC position

    3 6.82%
  • I disagree that alcohol abuse is a disability, I agree with the EEOC position

    2 4.55%
  • I disagree that alcohol abuse is a disability, I disagree with the EEOC position

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Thread: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    Your claim is that his driving is impaired while sober?
    No, my claim is that the company puts themself into too much of a risk by allowing an acknowledged alcoholic drive their trucks. If they wish to take that risk, that's up to them.

    As I said above, if a priest admitted to an attraction to little boys, I would not allow him to run the church day care. Would you?

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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    and of course, if the company is forced to hire drunks because of this act, and the guy kills a family of
    4 nodding off at the wheel; the company will be sued for negligence for hiring drunks to drive for them.
    another example of obama doing whatever it takes to destroy small business in America.
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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    Your claim is that his driving is impaired while sober?
    People with addictions will always be at higher risk. If he had sought treatment for alcohol abuse, that obviously means that he is at higher risk for a DWI, whether he has had one in the past or not. Don't people understand the concept of risk?
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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Unlike most of disabilities, alcohol and drug abuse can be overcome so no its not a disability.
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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    No, my claim is that the company puts themself into too much of a risk by allowing an acknowledged alcoholic drive their trucks. If they wish to take that risk, that's up to them.

    As I said above, if a priest admitted to an attraction to little boys, I would not allow him to run the church day care. Would you?
    Any alcoholic may choose to drive drunk. Should we reconsider issuing licenses to anyone who may theoretically choose to drive under the influence?

    Likewise, many heterosexual men find 18 year old women attractive. Shall we prevent males from teaching high school?

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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    Any alcoholic may choose to drive drunk. Should we reconsider issuing licenses to anyone who may theoretically choose to drive under the influence?

    Likewise, many heterosexual men find 18 year old women attractive. Shall we prevent males from teaching high school?
    that analogy doesn't work. the study finds alcoholism a disability or a "disease", as it's been called.
    being a heterosexual male isn't a disease or disability. the study actually concludes that the alcoholic
    is prone to certain anti-social or criminal activity. so placing the drunk in a driving position would be
    more like placing a known pedophile in charge of a day-care; not placing a normal hetero man in
    charge of a high school classroom. so you'd be for placing a pedophile in charge of a day-care?
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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Highway View Post
    Unlike most of disabilities, alcohol and drug abuse can be overcome so no its not a disability.
    Wrong. I know alcoholics that have over 25 years of sobriety under their belts. They will be the first to tell you that they have never "overcome" being an alcoholic.
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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Edit; see complete post below.
    Last edited by Helix; 09-07-11 at 12:50 PM.

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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    Any alcoholic may choose to drive drunk. Should we reconsider issuing licenses to anyone who may theoretically choose to drive under the influence?

    Likewise, many heterosexual men find 18 year old women attractive. Shall we prevent males from teaching high school?
    Here is how it works. I ask you a question and you answer it. You then can ask another question but not until you answer the question posed to you first, so let's try again.

    If a priest admitted to an attraction to little boys, I would not allow him to run the church day care. Would you?

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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Lewstherin :

    The only difference is that you've latched on to a more emotionally charged example in order to engage in an appeal to emotion fallacy.

    My opinion is that if the driver is sober, then the driver is not violating laws or the terms of his employment. If you would argue otherwise, cite some studies that show the addiction alone is an impairment to driving performance even in the absence of the intoxicating substance. If that theory is supported by peer reviewed studies, I will reconsider.

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