View Poll Results: Is alcohol abuse a disability; do you agree or disagree with the EEOC?

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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Gosh. I chose to pick up my first ciggie when I was 16 cuz I wanted to be like the other cool kids. Now I have been addicted for 43 years. It's a disease I tell ya. Picked it up in this amazonian forest called High School while wading in the masses of morons in the lake of Morons. Smoking Disease. Hard to kick, but can be done if I wanted to kick it back enough. But I don't choose to, so therefore, pity me that I have a disease I chose to wade in.
    I should be able to trot right on down to SSI and get my disability too, right? If it's a disease, I should expect my check soon, eh?

    BIG assed eye roll.

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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Enola View Post
    Gosh. I chose to pick up my first ciggie when I was 16 cuz I wanted to be like the other cool kids. Now I have been addicted for 43 years. It's a disease I tell ya. Picked it up in this amazonian forest called High School while wading in the masses of morons in the lake of Morons. Smoking Disease. Hard to kick, but can be done if I wanted to kick it back enough. But I don't choose to, so therefore, pity me that I have a disease I chose to wade in.
    I should be able to trot right on down to SSI and get my disability too, right? If it's a disease, I should expect my check soon, eh?

    BIG assed eye roll.
    That doesn't have anything to do with anything. From what I can see, all there is to this is that people can't get fired or demoted for being alcoholics if they're willing to go to rehab for it and they manage to kick. You're getting distracted by the terminology. Do you have an objection to that policy? Seems pretty sensible to me.

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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    If it affects their job performance, they deserve to be fired, or at the very least moved to another job where it doesn't affect performance, if such exists. That should go for *ANY* activity. Being able to perform the job for which you were hired is essential.
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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    No sane business owner I know would knowingly hire a current or former (recovering) alcoholic as a driver. It puts a jeopardy their entire company.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    If it affects their job performance, they deserve to be fired, or at the very least moved to another job where it doesn't affect performance, if such exists. That should go for *ANY* activity. Being able to perform the job for which you were hired is essential.
    They only can't fire or demote them if they get treatment and successfully quit drinking, so it wouldn't be affecting their job performance any more.

    Besides, if you could get fired for going to rehab, nobody that had a job could ever go to rehab. Right? That would be very bad, wouldn't it?

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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    No sane business owner I know would knowingly hire a current or former (recovering) alcoholic as a driver. It puts a jeopardy their entire company.
    Yeah, I might agree that that should fall within the safety exception. But the overall policy is sound I think.

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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    They only can't fire or demote them if they get treatment and successfully quit drinking, so it wouldn't be affecting their job performance any more.

    Besides, if you could get fired for going to rehab, nobody that had a job could ever go to rehab. Right? That would be very bad, wouldn't it?
    Then put them on leave or in another position until they have completed rehab. For as long as they are unable to perform their duties, they should not have those duties.
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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Then put them on leave or in another position until they have completed rehab. For as long as they are unable to perform their duties, they should not have those duties.
    Oh, yeah, that's how it works.

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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    That doesn't have anything to do with anything. From what I can see, all there is to this is that people can't get fired or demoted for being alcoholics if they're willing to go to rehab for it and they manage to kick. You're getting distracted by the terminology. Do you have an objection to that policy? Seems pretty sensible to me.
    Once an alcoholic, ALWAYS an alcoholic. Rehab my ass.

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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Ive had personal experience with Alcohol and job performance and disciplining of employees for alcohol use....the problem is that every employee caught drinking while working...used the alcholic excuse to avoid being fired...not all problem drinkers are Alcholics or addicted...who knows where this guy falls in...but what the company should have done...if this was his first time in the barrel...send him to rehab get him help...bring him back and offer him and no driving position....Trucking outfits pay huge insurance...to have a driver drunk and kill someone their liability is HUGE even if they are totally covered by insurance...their insurance will soar....If your caught driving commercially drunk, then admit to being an alcholic...you should not be driving commercially again...
    Id like to add that I doubt Old Dominions insurer will cover this guy after being caught drunk and admitting to being an alcholic
    Last edited by lpast; 09-03-11 at 04:35 PM.

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