View Poll Results: Is alcohol abuse a disability; do you agree or disagree with the EEOC?

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  • I agree alcohol abuse is a disability, I agree with the EEOC position

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  • I agree alcohol abuse is a disability, I disagree with the EEOC position

    3 6.82%
  • I disagree that alcohol abuse is a disability, I agree with the EEOC position

    2 4.55%
  • I disagree that alcohol abuse is a disability, I disagree with the EEOC position

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Thread: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    What an interesting excu---scenario. People who willingly poison their bodies should not receive such status and protection. What would happen if the alcoholic truck driver kills a family while driving drunk? Support the irresponsible seems like the mindset of today.
    Because "fairness," at least in this instance, trumps public safety. In other words, until he kills someone, nothing can be done; otherwise, it is discrimination. But I agree: being a drunk or a drug addict should NOT be a protected status. That is madness. It's almost as if people are arguing that a drug addict is equal to being handicapped. How silly.
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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    This is a private company with their own private policies. This could be alcoholism, drug use / abuse or other self administered problem. Second, does a company have a right to put their own policies out especially ones that protect not only their employees but others lives? Think of the lawsuit of a reformed alcoholic who falls off the wagon who was forced to be give the keys by the EEOC policy, who kills a family of three in an accident? Is it a better policy to force the keys back into their hands or is it a better policy to remove that option and keep them employed elsewhere?
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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Enola View Post
    It's no more a disability than it is a frigging disease. It's a CHOICE.
    Maybe he was born-that-way

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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    You can have physical withdrawals due to alcoholism, so yes it is a disability. Alcoholics are just as stuck as heroin addicts.
    I don't want heroin addicts driving truck either.

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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Hmmm... how about this. A pattern of compulsive and uncontrolled consumption of alcohol, usually to the detriment of the drinker's health, relationships, and social standing, whereas these things are secondary in nature to the individual's alcohol use. There are some genetic/biological differences, brainwise between an alcoholic and a non-alcoholic. I read a very recent study on this, but I cannot locate it at the present time.
    I would rather keep someone who can't help but pick up the bottle, from being behind the wheel of any vehicle.

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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I don't want heroin addicts driving truck either.
    Pfft...what's next? The meth addict? When will your prejudice end!
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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    The only alternative I can think of is giving him another position within the company. I would be ok with that. So long as he isn't on the road with me.
    And if he's not qualified to hold any other position within the company? What then?
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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    And if he's not qualified to hold any other position within the company? What then?
    North Carolina is a state with "at-will" employment standards. Federal law supersedes state law and this means that if the EEOC prevails, they can't fire someone for being an alcoholic but they can fire anyone of the other employees because they don't like how they part their hair and then give this alcoholic that person's job.

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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    North Carolina is a state with "at-will" employment standards. Federal law supersedes state law and this means that if the EEOC prevails, they can't fire someone for being an alcoholic but they can fire anyone of the other employees because they don't like how they part their hair and then give this alcoholic that person's job.
    Which is utterly idiotic.
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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I generally disagree that alcohol abuse is a disability. But I've known two people in my lifetime whom I'd describe as sick/disabled because of it. They've both destroyed their families and careers and have gone to jail and prison, and one of them nearly burned himself to death. And yet cannot--cannot--stop drinking. They're sick, mentally sick, and cannot help themselves.
    OK now with that being said do you think the employeer should keep a guy like this around while he is fighting his addiction or whatever he has?

    The employeer needs to get the work done and keep his employees safe, he does not have time to deal with employees like this. It is detrimental to the company.

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