View Poll Results: Is alcohol abuse a disability; do you agree or disagree with the EEOC?

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  • I agree alcohol abuse is a disability, I agree with the EEOC position

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  • I agree alcohol abuse is a disability, I disagree with the EEOC position

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  • I disagree that alcohol abuse is a disability, I agree with the EEOC position

    2 4.55%
  • I disagree that alcohol abuse is a disability, I disagree with the EEOC position

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Thread: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Under the law, it is
    Then our laws are flawed. Being an alcohol is a lifestyle problem and a character flaw, not a "disability." My great uncle didn't die from his alcohol disability, he died from his rampant alcoholism that destroyed his body. Calling it a disability is a cop out for responsibility and holding individuals responsible for their lifestyle/choices.
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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    So you don't mind sharing the road with an alcoholic truck driver?
    Maybe you should read what I've posted:

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    1) It's the EEOC that is suing and that's because, under the law, it's the EEOC that gets first crack at the case. As a result, most disability cases under the ADA are filed by the EEOC.

    2) The company can re-assign people with a disability to another job. It's called a "reasonable accomodation". In this case, the employer can re-assign the alcoholic to a non-driving job.
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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Then our laws are flawed. Being an alcohol is a lifestyle problem and a character flaw, not a "disability.".
    Medical science disagrees with your opinion
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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Then our laws are flawed. Being an alcohol is a lifestyle problem and a character flaw, not a "disability." My great uncle didn't die from his alcohol disability, he died from his rampant alcoholism that destroyed his body. Calling it a disability is a cop out for responsibility and holding individuals responsible for their lifestyle/choices.
    Being an alcoholic is a disability, irregardless of the fact that it's self-inflicted. You're still disabled if you cut off your own feet.
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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Medical science disagrees with your opinion
    As a medical scientist I think that's a cop out opinion. Can you state why alcohol abuse is a disability?
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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    So you don't mind sharing the road with an alcoholic truck driver?
    Drivers on Meth too. Yikes. I think if a person breaks the law and puts human life at risk then tough luck. 'Predisposition' has nothing to do with it. But I'm not against employers putting addicts through treatment, once, and giving them a second chance. With exception to DUI.
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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Maybe you should read what I've posted:
    I did. I even agreed with it. But you still seem to be defending the law in this case.
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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleRain View Post
    Drivers on Meth too. Yikes. I think if a person breaks the law and puts human life at risk then tough luck. 'Predisposition' has nothing to do with it. But I'm not against employers putting addicts through treatment, once, and giving them a second chance. With exception to DUI.
    Predisposition to addiction does exist, but it doesn't excuse one's actions. For example, some people are predisposed to mental problems. That doesn't exclude them from the responsibility of helping themselves.
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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    As a medical scientist I think that's a cop out opinion. Can you state why alcohol abuse is a disability?
    Addiction is a physiological condition. Science has shown that addiction causes changes in the chemistry and structures of the brain
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    Re: Is alcohol abuse a "disability"?

    Quote Originally Posted by evanescence View Post
    I did. I even agreed with it. But you still seem to be defending the law in this case.
    The law doesn't require the employer to keep an alcoholic in a position (ie as a driver) that endangers the public
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