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Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

Do you agree with Eric Cantor that disaster relief must be offset elsewhere?


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It's a bit of a catch-22 but a deceitful one at that. Of course it's the "rich" because they are the only ones paying income taxes, never mind, many of them are not actually rich. The arguement is no tax increases until cuts are agreed upon.

Perry ..natural disasters dont discriminate and give the rich a pass...hurricanes, earthquakes, floods and tornados dont go around all the rich and just nail the middleclass and poor.....the rich loses electric, possibly loved ones...their homes and everything in it just like everyone else...disaster relief is NOT CLASS WARFARE...disaster relief is for EVERYONE who gets caught in GUESS WHAT a natural disaster ....how incredibly STUPID for cantor to grasp on that point to take issue with...and know what Id bet im not in the minority on this one..
All you conservatives can stand on your heads and spin and do pirouettes and you cant make that stupid statement smell good

People are dieing..WAIT...we have to figure out how to pay for helping them first....People dont have electric or shelter..WAIT..we have to figure out how to pay for it first....pffffffffffffft.....assinine
 
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Oxham before you ask silly questions you really should pay attention to whats going on around you...ask christie..walker...rick scott and kasich if they said public workers are overpaid and need to be attacked...
You are avoiding my question - Who specifically said (from the tea party, or Republican party) that public workers should be stripped of benefits and when did they say it? Quote it... when you cannot in your next reply, I'll know it was BS, as I expected.

Personally if someone needs to get caught in a natural disaster and loses everything they have...and have to wait for any relief while the teaparty fondles themselves...I certainly Hope with all sincerity its YOU...
I plan, I save and I am prepared. What you hope is irrelevant. You're opinions based on partisan talking points from union newsletters based on inflammatory rhetoric is not something the tea party is interested in with membership. So I'll restate - no big loss.
 
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You are avoiding my question - Who specifically said (from the tea party, or Republican party) that public workers should be stripped of benefits and when did they say it? Quote it... when you cannot in your next reply, I'll know it was BS, as I expected.

I plan, I save and I am prepared. What you hope is irrelevant. You're opinions based on partisan talking points from union newsletters based on inflammatory rhetoric is not something the tea party is interested in with membership. So I'll restate - no big loss.


Actually im not avoiding your question now...im avoiding you....have a nice day...
 
In the end this will not make cantor and the teaparty any new friends
 
Perry ..natural disasters dont discriminate and give the rich a pass...hurricanes, earthquakes, floods and tornados dont go around all the rich and just nail the middleclass and poor.....the rich loses electric, possibly loved ones...their homes and everything in it just like everyone else...disaster relief is NOT CLASS WARFARE...disaster relief is for EVERYONE who gets caught in GUESS WHAT a natural disaster ....how incredibly STUPID for cantor to grasp on that point to take issue with...and know what Id bet im not in the minority on this one..

My statement had nothing to do with disaster relief. It was about the spin on the situation with raising taxes.
 
Actually im not avoiding your question now...im avoiding you....have a nice day...

Seems to happen a lot on these pages when one is asked something they would rather not address.
 
In the end this will not make cantor and the teaparty any new friends

It'll be very popular in Cantor's district....until there's a natural disaster there. Then they'll be looking for the "scary big government" to swoop in and help.
 
My statement had nothing to do with disaster relief. It was about the spin on the situation with raising taxes.


Thats what his statement is all about...and thats what its for
 
Seems to happen a lot on these pages when one is asked something they would rather not address.


No thats not the case at all...its the individual I dont care to address

I hope you all keep carping for cantor though...:) no disaster relief till we figure out how to pay for it.....keep that mantra up please...I cant believe any of you are trying to defend that statement
 
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Actually im not avoiding your question now...im avoiding you....have a nice day...

Exactly... thanks for affirming my expectation. :2wave:
 
It'll be very popular in Cantor's district....until there's a natural disaster there. Then they'll be looking for the "scary big government" to swoop in and help.

That's part of the problem. Too many believing that it's up to the government to provide for them anytime things aren't going the way they expect it to.
 
That's part of the problem. Too many believing that it's up to the government to provide for them anytime things aren't going the way they expect it to.

It's called dependency. When people do not plan for disaster and they expect others to pick up the pieces for them. Disaster happens to all of us at some point - better to take on that eventuality instead of expecting others to do it for us.
 
Exactly... thanks for affirming my expectation. :2wave:

Your quite welcome sir :) dig into your memory and you will remember why :) no more to be said cheers
 
No thats not the case at all...its the individual I dont care to address

I hope you all keep carping for cantor though...:) no disaster relief till we figure out how to pay for it.....keep that mantra up please...I cant believe any of you are trying to defend that statement

On your first statement. I can understand it with some people. I've not noticed Ockham to have been out of line though. There are many accusations passed around that are just that. Seems to me that he just wanted you to back it up.

Now, it's not about Cantor. I care less what happens to him. Throw tomatoes at him, I don't care. It's the big picture. We are broke and simply can not continue down this same path. We caused this and unfortunately there are negative consequences when you do stupid things.

As I said, why doesn't Obama take this to the public like Reagan did when he wanted something? Even as Clinton was able to. Go on television and state that people need help but we do not have the money and that he believes we need to raise it by doing this or that and he expects the American people to support him on it.
 
Your quite welcome sir :) dig into your memory and you will remember why :) no more to be said cheers

My memory is exactly why I asked you to back it up, and why you cannot, proving your statement simple rhetoric.

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It's called dependency. When people do not plan for disaster and they expect others to pick up the pieces for them. Disaster happens to all of us at some point - better to take on that eventuality instead of expecting others to do it for us.

We felt the earthquake that happened the other week. We had another small tremor the other morning. People were discussing it at my wife's work when one of the older ladies said that she wasn't concerned because she had earthquake insurance. I'm still not convinced the threat is great enough BUT yes, many would have been clamoring for the government to step in if there had been major damage outside of a few.

I'm not even one to say that the government should do nothing as we do pay taxes and it's not unreasonable to expect something back from those taxes. My position now is that we allowed the government to spend like fools and they have nothing to give back. Sometimes lessons are hard learned.
 
My memory is exactly why I asked you to back it up, and why you cannot, proving your statement simple rhetoric.

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Im like Oreilly...you can have the last word...just so I dont have to converse with you anymore..:) YOU WIN
 
Im like Oreilly...you can have the last word...just so I dont have to converse with you anymore..:) YOU WIN

Tip for you:

Go to user control panel, choose the ignore list, type in the name Ockham, save. It'll ensure you don't have any more reality from me added to your own little world view. Otherwise, I'll be happy to continue to add to your education.
 
The United States is the richest and greatest nation on the face of the earth, I find it sad indeed that there are some people who are unwilling to help citizens in need. My bet is that many of you folks would borrow money to help your family in a time of need. Sad indeed. :(
 
Personally, since I cannot find any suggestion for Disaster Relief anywhere in the US Constitution, I don't believe it should be done at all, but if it IS going to be done, it needs to be offset by social welfare cuts elsewhere.
 
It's called dependency. When people do not plan for disaster and they expect others to pick up the pieces for them. Disaster happens to all of us at some point - better to take on that eventuality instead of expecting others to do it for us.
Your conservative Governor, Chris Christie, praised FEMA, what's up with that?
 
Just because we believe the rich should pay more, doesn't mean we approve of wasteful spending. We can cut from military and other areas, legalize & tax Marijuana, bring jobs back and hit the rich with higher taxes. They're begging us to tax them. We should do it.. it certainly wont HURT America now will it? We can save many social programs and help our fellow Americans in need.

I agree the tax system in the US needs overhauled. I am not willing to give Congress a blank check on tax increases. When they come out with a plan and can guarentee that the increase in taxes will go to pay for X, then maybe they deserve more of our money. As far as decreasing military spending, I can agree to point. One thing to consider is where in the military budget you want the cuts. If it is troop reduction, the question becomes where are the jobs for those leaving military service. If it cuts in hardware orders, how will that impact civilians who work in the plants to produce the hardware.

Bottom line, is the US is borrowing about 40c of every dollar it spends. Some think that the solution is to raise taxes on some. I believe Congress needs to look at what all it is spending on. and yes the revenue side needs to be looked at. Congress needs to take a hard look at all programs the feds are not involved in.
 
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"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal." Matthew 25:41-46​
 
"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal." Matthew 25:41-46​

Phys, that's great for you Christians. We heathens have a different way of looking at the world. ;)
 
The United States is the richest and greatest nation on the face of the earth, I find it sad indeed that there are some people who are unwilling to help citizens in need. My bet is that many of you folks would borrow money to help your family in a time of need. Sad indeed. :(

I can agree with the greatest nation, don't think we are the richest. We borrow 40c of each dollar spent by the feds, we are trillions in debt. How is that rich?

So you want us to continue to spend the way we are going and cover all disasters on top of it. So we incease our debt to future generations. How about balancing our budget, get rid of the debt and live within our means. We should get loans on amounts we can reasonably afford to pay back.

We need to cover disasters. Some of it can be planned for based on past history of events. When the amount is exceeded Congress needs to redirect funds and stay within budget. It is a matter of priorities. We do it as individuals, the govt. should be also.
 
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