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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The United States is the richest and greatest nation on the face of the earth, I find it sad indeed that there are some people who are unwilling to help citizens in need. My bet is that many of you folks would borrow money to help your family in a time of need. Sad indeed.
    I wouldn't take out a $250,000 loan when I was making $25,000 a year.

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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    I wouldn't take out a $250,000 loan when I was making $25,000 a year.
    I couldn't agree with you more, but its rather immature to assume all people who need help irresponsibly spend, dont you think? There are good, honest, God Fearing, responsible Americans who recently LOST EVERYTHING they had by no fault of their own. Sometimes people have it all together and suddenly they are struck with a deadly illness like cancer. You understand that one single shot for white blood count is between 3-8 thousand dollars. That's just one shot. These otherwise responsible people have to sell of everything they've spent their lives working for just to pay for their medical bills... and they STILL need help.

    Think of all the Military families on Food Stamps... is it because they're "irresponsible"? How about your Doctors Medical Receptionist? How much do you think they get paid? Gas station managers? Day Care workers?... you cant be SO jaded all you see is the bad in everyone, can you?

    Every hear of "empathy"?
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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleRain View Post
    Every hear of "empathy"?
    Ever consider forced empathy is no better than no empathy at all?

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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Your conservative Governor, Chris Christie, praised FEMA, what's up with that?
    Only a skewed view of the world sees things only one way all the time. I believe Chris Christie has also praised President Obama in the past as well... not everyone is a political hack and fits into little pigeon hole characterizations found in the funny papers.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleRain View Post
    [FONT=Lucida Sans Unicode]I couldn't agree with you more, but its rather immature to assume all people who need help irresponsibly spend, dont you think?
    I've never made that point. My point was that the government has been irresponsible in their spending.

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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleRain View Post
    I couldn't agree with you more, but its rather immature to assume all people who need help irresponsibly spend, dont you think? There are good, honest, God Fearing, responsible Americans who recently LOST EVERYTHING they had by no fault of their own. Sometimes people have it all together and suddenly they are struck with a deadly illness like cancer. You understand that one single shot for white blood count is between 3-8 thousand dollars. That's just one shot. These otherwise responsible people have to sell of everything they've spent their lives working for just to pay for their medical bills... and they STILL need help.

    Think of all the Military families on Food Stamps... is it because they're "irresponsible"? How about your Doctors Medical Receptionist? How much do you think they get paid? Gas station managers? Day Care workers?... you cant be SO jaded all you see is the bad in everyone, can you?

    Every hear of "empathy"?
    I don't think he is seeing bad in everyone. When I saw the 250K loan statement when making 25K, made me think of the US govt.
    How much more do you want to go in debt as a country? We are trillions in the hole, are currently borrowing 40c on every dollar the Feds spend. We should put Americans first, yet we spend billions elsewhere, on pork projects, etc. We have to get our fiscal house in order or we will go down the tubes.

    Yes, we need disaster assistance to local, county and State level. Yes, some private citizens needs help. We just can't keep printing and spendin money at the federal level at the rate we are.
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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Ever consider forced empathy is no better than no empathy at all?
    I'm forced to pay for all kinds of things I dont feel I should have to pay for - but that's just the way it is. And yeah, forced empathy isn't any better than having than no empathy at all.
    Regardless, I dont know how people look themselves in the mirror knowing they care so little about their fellow human beings. And worse: when a Christian does it. Since they were commanded to love their neighbor as 'they love themselves' it stands to reason that if they saw a person hungry, or in need of help, they would reach out to that person and care for them 'as they would themselves'
    Of ALL the programs we can cut from, suggesting we gut all the social ones says a lot about a person.

    I dont always LIKE the truth, but I can take it just fine ... it would be nice to see people just admit that they dont want to help others instead of hiding their selfishness behind the Constitution.
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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    That's part of the problem. Too many believing that it's up to the government to provide for them anytime things aren't going the way they expect it to.
    I kind of agree with that. My point is that the same people who go to Tea Party rallies and moan about "big government spending" are the first ones in line when something happens to them. It wasn't that long ago that we had a whole thread on here with Conservatives lamenting lack of Federal action on wildfires in Texas. The same people who say things about how "the government isn't responsible for you, blah blah.."

    Just wait until there's a natural disaster in Cantor's district. I bet he'll be the first one looking to get Federal money.


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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleRain View Post
    I dont always LIKE the truth, but I can take it just fine ... it would be nice to see people just admit that they dont want to help others instead of hiding their selfishness behind the Constitution.
    I for one have never stated "gut" all of the social/entitlement programs. Reform those that need it, eliminate duplicate programs, look for efficencies, needs to be looked at for all programs the Feds are involved in. It is selfish to hide behind beliefs and hand your grandchildren and great grandchildren a debt that they may not be able to pay. Many believe we should help Americans before helping the world.

    In order to carry out what you would like to see in helping those in need, don't you think the Congress needs to take a hard look at where it is spending our tax dollars? I think they do. They need to look at the tax code for revenue, loopholes, etc. They need to elimate wastefully unnecessary spending, and do a better job of prioritizing where tax dollars go.
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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    We wouldn't have this discussion if Obama had spent 4.1 trillion on his watch.
    Catch me if you can.

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