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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It's called dependency. When people do not plan for disaster and they expect others to pick up the pieces for them. Disaster happens to all of us at some point - better to take on that eventuality instead of expecting others to do it for us.
    We felt the earthquake that happened the other week. We had another small tremor the other morning. People were discussing it at my wife's work when one of the older ladies said that she wasn't concerned because she had earthquake insurance. I'm still not convinced the threat is great enough BUT yes, many would have been clamoring for the government to step in if there had been major damage outside of a few.

    I'm not even one to say that the government should do nothing as we do pay taxes and it's not unreasonable to expect something back from those taxes. My position now is that we allowed the government to spend like fools and they have nothing to give back. Sometimes lessons are hard learned.

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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    My memory is exactly why I asked you to back it up, and why you cannot, proving your statement simple rhetoric.

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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Im like Oreilly...you can have the last word...just so I dont have to converse with you anymore.. YOU WIN
    Tip for you:

    Go to user control panel, choose the ignore list, type in the name Ockham, save. It'll ensure you don't have any more reality from me added to your own little world view. Otherwise, I'll be happy to continue to add to your education.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    The United States is the richest and greatest nation on the face of the earth, I find it sad indeed that there are some people who are unwilling to help citizens in need. My bet is that many of you folks would borrow money to help your family in a time of need. Sad indeed.

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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    Personally, since I cannot find any suggestion for Disaster Relief anywhere in the US Constitution, I don't believe it should be done at all, but if it IS going to be done, it needs to be offset by social welfare cuts elsewhere.

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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It's called dependency. When people do not plan for disaster and they expect others to pick up the pieces for them. Disaster happens to all of us at some point - better to take on that eventuality instead of expecting others to do it for us.
    Your conservative Governor, Chris Christie, praised FEMA, what's up with that?

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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    Quote Originally Posted by SeattleRain View Post
    Just because we believe the rich should pay more, doesn't mean we approve of wasteful spending. We can cut from military and other areas, legalize & tax Marijuana, bring jobs back and hit the rich with higher taxes. They're begging us to tax them. We should do it.. it certainly wont HURT America now will it? We can save many social programs and help our fellow Americans in need.
    I agree the tax system in the US needs overhauled. I am not willing to give Congress a blank check on tax increases. When they come out with a plan and can guarentee that the increase in taxes will go to pay for X, then maybe they deserve more of our money. As far as decreasing military spending, I can agree to point. One thing to consider is where in the military budget you want the cuts. If it is troop reduction, the question becomes where are the jobs for those leaving military service. If it cuts in hardware orders, how will that impact civilians who work in the plants to produce the hardware.

    Bottom line, is the US is borrowing about 40c of every dollar it spends. Some think that the solution is to raise taxes on some. I believe Congress needs to look at what all it is spending on. and yes the revenue side needs to be looked at. Congress needs to take a hard look at all programs the feds are not involved in.
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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    "Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal." Matthew 25:41-46
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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    "Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal." Matthew 25:41-46
    Phys, that's great for you Christians. We heathens have a different way of looking at the world.

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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The United States is the richest and greatest nation on the face of the earth, I find it sad indeed that there are some people who are unwilling to help citizens in need. My bet is that many of you folks would borrow money to help your family in a time of need. Sad indeed.
    I can agree with the greatest nation, don't think we are the richest. We borrow 40c of each dollar spent by the feds, we are trillions in debt. How is that rich?

    So you want us to continue to spend the way we are going and cover all disasters on top of it. So we incease our debt to future generations. How about balancing our budget, get rid of the debt and live within our means. We should get loans on amounts we can reasonably afford to pay back.

    We need to cover disasters. Some of it can be planned for based on past history of events. When the amount is exceeded Congress needs to redirect funds and stay within budget. It is a matter of priorities. We do it as individuals, the govt. should be also.
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