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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Tip for you:

    Go to user control panel, choose the ignore list, type in the name Ockham, save. It'll ensure you don't have any more reality from me added to your own little world view. Otherwise, I'll be happy to continue to add to your education.
    Dont need nor want any advice from you sir and I dont want you on ignore...from time to time I need a laugh....but thanks anyway

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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Good point. I guess I find it weird that any American who's nonreligious would support a political viewpoint that believes they can't be "real" Americans, entitled to all of the same rights.
    Conservatism as a political viewpoint does not even consider Religion. It considers Morality and the concepts of Right and Wrong, but it doesn't consider specific Religious systems. Now Republicanism.... that's a different story. I am not and never have been a Republican. I feel they have no more Moral high ground to stand on than the Democrats do.

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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Conservatism as a political viewpoint does not even consider Religion. It considers Morality and the concepts of Right and Wrong, but it doesn't consider specific Religious systems. Now Republicanism.... that's a different story. I am not and never have been a Republican. I feel they have no more Moral high ground to stand on than the Democrats do.
    But how do you explain all this? Exceptions occur, sure, but is not the overall trend undeniable?
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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    Cantor is basically Wall Street's bitch. When a natural disaster hits those type of people, they don't need government help. It makes some sense considering who his backers are that he basically doesn't give a **** about everyone else when it comes to natural disaster relief.
    "If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him." - Sun Tzu

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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    But how do you explain all this? Exceptions occur, sure, but is not the overall trend undeniable?
    The problem with your theory is that it assumes Democrat=Liberal and Republican=Conservative. That's not necessarily true; especially on the Republican side.

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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    "Conservative" is too broad a term for most discussions. Fiscally? Constitutionally? Morally? Religiously? How are you conservative or liberal? And, do you mean how you live your life vs. who you support politically vs. what you believe you have the right to impose upon others?
    The US is an odd ship. The captain yells out when he sees obtacles , but 535 individual propellers do the steering.

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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    The problem with your theory is that it assumes Democrat=Liberal and Republican=Conservative. That's not necessarily true; especially on the Republican side.
    Uh, since when? How many Tea-Party congresspeople are independents or Democrats?
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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Uh, since when? How many Tea-Party congresspeople are independents or Democrats?
    Irrelevant - how many in congress and what letter comes before or after their name does not reflect the public make up of the tea party. 60 tea party members are in congress of the 435 total making up a whopping 13.7%.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Irrelevant - how many in congress and what letter comes before or after their name does not reflect the public make up of the tea party. 60 tea party members are in congress of the 435 total making up a whopping 13.7%.
    Uh, actually it does matter. Every single Tea-Party member of Congress a member of the Republican Party. The Tea Party is a party in name only.
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    Re: Eric Cantor And Disaster Relief

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Uh, actually it does matter. Every single Tea-Party member of Congress a member of the Republican Party. The Tea Party is a party in name only.
    Yet, that's not true of the population at large now is it. I understand the need to marginalize the tea party by pointing to the politicians from a tactical view. The problem is, the tea party is much larger than the 60 members in Congress, and it's not a party at all. The initial "tea party" wasn't using the word "party" in an political organization sense either.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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