Unless, your argument that killing things is inconsistent with the purpose and design of a firearm. If that is the case, then can you explain the need to propel a 165 grain bullet at a velocity of 900 feet per second in order to damage a tin can or a piece of cardboard? Would not a BB gun serve the same purposes, at least at short distances?
The point of the OP, if I may be so bold and if I may return to the original premise of the thread, is that a hi-capacity pistol is a rather odd thing for a political party to be raffling off in order to raise funds, especially in the district where a Congresswoman was recently shot with the same brand and style of firearm. The OP has a valid point. Instead of equivocating on the use of a firearm I would have expected the 2nd Amendmentists to simply champion the right to keep and bear arms regardless of who is doing the trafficking of the weapon (in this case, the local GOP), as long as it is legal. Instead, given all the apologist posts out there on this issue (apologizing for the uses of firearms and trying to equate them as harmless), I get the impression of cognitive dissonance (knowing that the act is wrong, but trying to legitimize it with various illogical rationale).
As was noted earlier, this is likely an intentional provocation by the local GOP. Otherwise they are rather dense (and I doubt that is the case).
Look up his work, its BowieTacticalConcepts.com I think
Communists hate armed citizens since armed citizens are a prophylactic against the scourge of communism
Raffle: I dont think there's anything wrong with a gun raffle. Just not right now. Whether it was meant to be harmful is irrelevant. It's insensitive.
This is about having respect and empathy for other human beings-it's about everyone who died that day and their families as much as it is about Gabby and hers. This is not an attack on you, guns or gun rights. Stop using this as one more thing to fight about and be human for a moment
As to the Mosque and Muslims: There wasnt all this concern with Muslims being "terrorist", as a whole, when we sent our young American Men and Women to die so that a nation of "Islamic terrorist Muslims" could live in a democracy. I dont see how Muslims were good for American blood but not good enough to have a Mosque close to ground zero - or not good enough to hold any public office in the United States?
No one seemed too concerned when Republican President George W. Bush had Saudi Prince Abdullah over to his personal home in TX for a family dinner. Abdullah was named one of the worlds top 500 most influential Muslims in the world, twice. Nor did anyone seem to care when Bush announced on national TV that Muslims were Peaceful people. Where was the uproar then?
From a Christian perspective, Jesus would have "walked in love" with Muslims "kneeling with them in prayer" and "feeding them living water".
He would have never lived in constant suspect or fear.. and He would have commanded His followers to "love your enemy/neighbor as you love yourself" and to "fear not" because He "is with you"
I'm not suggesting you shouldnt be concerned with Religious rule... It all makes me nervous, and I'm more concerned with Christian rule than I am Islamic rule at this point, but my point is: Christians can do all things through Christ. So use Christ the RIGHT way and LOVE people.
The difference between Juddaism, Islam and Christianity is Jesus being the Messiah(or not), but in the name of Jesus, Christians degrade people and call it love. It's safe to say that ALL three Religions prove GOD to be the greatest Domestic Violence Abuser of all.
Christians shouldn't work so HARD to hate people that they forget how to love.
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Silly poor people
Tax cuts are for the rich!
The GOP could have avoided this whole mess by auctioning off a Springfield XDM instead, and it's a better gun to boot.
If you build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day.
If you set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
It just happens that they are raffling the same "TYPE" gun that was used in the Gifford's shooting. We must remember that the gun they are raffling is not the SAME gun used in the shooting, let's remember that the individual did it and not the gun, guns don't fire by themselves. It just happens that this particular gun is very popular.
Catch me if you can.
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