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    Should Businesses Be Able To Outsource if They Receive Government Help?

    This is just a thought off the top of my head, and I haven't actually looked into the matter at all, but I'm just assuming that plenty of businesses who are outsourcing and doing jobs overseas have had some sort of government subsidy, bailout, etc. With this being said do you think they should still be able to outsource and relocate to different countries? To my knowledge there is no law on this matter, or much of anything at that, but I've been wrong before

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    Re: Should Businesses Be Able To Outsource if They Receive Government Help?

    They may not be as competitively viable if they werent allowed to do so.

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    Re: Should Businesses Be Able To Outsource if They Receive Government Help?

    It would of course depend on the nature of the handout, what restrictions apply and whether or not they violate WTO or other rules.

    Generally subsidies are provided in the form of either cheap land or reduced taxes in the US. One way the Southeast US got some Japanese, Korean and German car makers to build plants there. If the handout is a direct cash payment restrictions can be applied on where that money is spent of course.
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    Re: Should Businesses Be Able To Outsource if They Receive Government Help?

    Should business be able to outsource after getting bailout by the american taxpayer....NO NO NO NO NO

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    Re: Should Businesses Be Able To Outsource if They Receive Government Help?

    Government perks to business should be quid pro quo. Giving a sweetheart loan or a land sale should require a contract requiring the company to maintain a minimum number of jobs within the area for a certain number of years or some other public service. If the deal actually will benefit the taxpayer, everyone shouldn't have a problem agreeing to that in writing.

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    Re: Should Businesses Be Able To Outsource if They Receive Government Help?

    Quote Originally Posted by DontDoIt View Post
    This is just a thought off the top of my head, and I haven't actually looked into the matter at all, but I'm just assuming that plenty of businesses who are outsourcing and doing jobs overseas have had some sort of government subsidy, bailout, etc. With this being said do you think they should still be able to outsource and relocate to different countries? To my knowledge there is no law on this matter, or much of anything at that, but I've been wrong before

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    I put "Depends on the Circumstances."

    On one hand government contracts can help spur the domestic economy. On the other hand, some things may only be able to be done by foreign businesses.

    Let me give you a local example. In South Florida, some of the local governments decided to give a certain percentage of their contracts to the smaller, local contractors rather than to larger contractors who could outbid them. They did this to help shore up the smaller local businesses to help the local economy.

    I would be fine with something like that - as in a certain percentage of each contract must provide jobs for American employees.

    Also, I have always supported a human rights tax on imported goods from nations whose governments perform human rights abuses. Perhaps we could make it a law that corporations with businesses in nations who perform human rights abuses are not allowed to have any part of a government contract. That would be a good thing to do too.
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    Re: Should Businesses Be Able To Outsource if They Receive Government Help?

    Quote Originally Posted by DontDoIt View Post
    This is just a thought off the top of my head, and I haven't actually looked into the matter at all, but I'm just assuming that plenty of businesses who are outsourcing and doing jobs overseas have had some sort of government subsidy, bailout, etc. With this being said do you think they should still be able to outsource and relocate to different countries? To my knowledge there is no law on this matter, or much of anything at that, but I've been wrong before

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    Giving money to a business that outsources is no different than giving money to a foreign owned business.The government has no business giving any business money period but if they are going to give money to businesses it should be actual American businesses not American in name only. So the answer is no they should not be allowed to outsource if they receive money from tax payers.
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    Re: Should Businesses Be Able To Outsource if They Receive Government Help?

    Quote Originally Posted by DontDoIt View Post
    This is just a thought off the top of my head, and I haven't actually looked into the matter at all, but I'm just assuming that plenty of businesses who are outsourcing and doing jobs overseas have had some sort of government subsidy, bailout, etc. With this being said do you think they should still be able to outsource and relocate to different countries? To my knowledge there is no law on this matter, or much of anything at that, but I've been wrong before

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    I voted Yes. Any company should be allowed to build a plant or open any facility anywhere in the world. If the government decided to give that company some money, that is the government's fault and not the businesses.

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    Re: Should Businesses Be Able To Outsource if They Receive Government Help?

    Depends on what kind of "government help" we're talking about. If the US government is hiring them to handle personal/sensitive/classified information, then I think it's perfectly reasonable to demand that all people working those jobs be American citizens/residents. For most other situations, I'd say leave the business alone and don't try to micromanage their hiring practices too much.
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    Re: Should Businesses Be Able To Outsource if They Receive Government Help?

    Quote Originally Posted by David D. View Post
    I like Les' approach. I don't think it's fair to tell businesses they can't do something after the fact, ie here's some money and then (3 years later) 'oh, by the way you can't outsource now'. Those type of ground rules need to be laid from the get-go.

    That being said, I don't believe the government should be giving dollars to businesses who frequently outsource, who are setting themselves up to outsource, ect. But that decision lies in the hands of the government, whom we elect.
    I think you are close to liking my approach, but not sure we are there. Please let me clarify. I believe in freedom. Any U.S. company should be able to build a facility overseas and the government should not have any say about the issue; unless, it is due to a critical national security issue. I further believe that no company should receive any type of financial payment from the government. The government should not be in the business of picking winners and losers or rewarding bad behavior.

    Are we still in agreement?

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