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Thread: Should there be a "Swift Justice" law

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    Re: Should there be a "Swift Justice" law

    I get that and all, but on the taxpayer's dime? I'd rather just take them out back and bill their next of kin for the bullet.

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    Re: Should there be a "Swift Justice" law

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    In capital offenses, it's up to 7.
    Not sure what you're talking about. That certainly isn't the normal process- the only courts above a district court are the appeals court and the supreme court, so I'm not sure where those other appeals would go even... Can you explain or provide a source?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    And just look at the case he mentioned. There is no doubt the man did it. The only possible defenses would be centered around mens rea - I know how schiesters love to use the insanity plea. Fortunately, I think they'll cutting down on that being a legitimate defense.
    It's one of those "worst system except all the others" things. Yeah, due process is a pain sometimes, but the alternative is tyranny, so obviously that's worse, right? You can't just let judges convict whoever they want of whatever they want without any evidence just because they say they're real sure...

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    Re: Should there be a "Swift Justice" law

    I dont see the benefit of a new law....no matter how long his trial takes he will be behind bars....much like casey anthony who was imprisoned for over two years leading up to and including her trial
    Aside from that your own mentioned flaw...who decides which case goes on fasttrack

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    Re: Should there be a "Swift Justice" law

    There is an assumption here that the death penalty, assuming that it is not done via torture, is in his judgment, less desirable that being held in some prison. Killing him makes him a martyr for his type, held in prison not so much. For his ‘safety’ he could be held in solitary confinement and receive other ‘protections’. Think about the one you want to punish, not yourself, when you want harshness.
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    Re: Should there be a "Swift Justice" law

    In what universe can a mass-murderer be eligible for martyrdom?

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    Re: Should there be a "Swift Justice" law

    Unfortunately there are others that think like him. And fewer that are in ideological alignment. And a smaller number, but not zero, that think the action he took is correct.

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    Re: Should there be a "Swift Justice" law

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Ever hear of appellate court? I doubt Jet is talking capture to execution in a week or two, but let's face it - some criminals fall well beyond the realm of "reasonable doubt".

    What we need to do is, instead of having up to 7 appeals (which will end up costing more than the price of putting a man in prison for the rest of his natural life), shorten it down to 1 appeal. If two competent judges say you should die, you're dead.

    And you know what will stop a judge from doing that? His job.
    I agree with that. I think the stronger the evidence the less appeals you get.If they got you on video shooting people then no appeals and an immediate trip the electric chair,gas chamber, lethal injection room or in some states a firing squad after a guilty conviction. It should not take 10-20 years to execute someone.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should there be a "Swift Justice" law

    I don't see the point. Nothing that happens to this man will make the situation better.
    If you notice something good in yourself, give credit to God, not to yourself, but be certain the evil you commit is always your own and yours to acknowledge.

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    Re: Should there be a "Swift Justice" law

    Not introducing him back into public would probably make the situation better.

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    Re: Should there be a "Swift Justice" law

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    In what universe can a mass-murderer be eligible for martyrdom?
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    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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