View Poll Results: Do you view social security is an entitlement that can be altered?

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  • Yes, it should be eliminated completely.

    45 50.00%
  • Yes, I could handle a small level of program reduction.

    6 6.67%
  • No, its my money, and the government has no right to touch it.

    32 35.56%
  • I dont know and/or it depends on what is offered as a replacement program.

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    Re: Do you view Social Security as an entitlement?

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    It is a -supplemental- retirement benefit. It was never intended to be the SOLE source of retirement income.
    If you pay into SS, you are entitled to receive -a- benefit.
    Note that there is no guarantee of the amount of that benefit, and so 'we paid into it' is not an argument against a benefit reduction.
    Go ahead touch SS I would love to see the republican party self destruct, the USA would be much better off with the party of NO no longer a part of our politics

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    Re: Do you view Social Security as an entitlement?

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Go ahead touch SS I would love to see the republican party self destruct, the USA would be much better off with the party of NO no longer a part of our politics
    As if both parties aren't "the party of NO" when it suits them.

    And as if saying NO was a bad thing.

    Damnit, I'm of the opinion that if our politicians had all been saying NO to everything for, like, the past 20 years, we would be better off now. Or perhaps longer.

    Too many stupid, plans, departments, bills and laws, IMO.



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    Re: Do you view Social Security as an entitlement?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I liked the constitutional republic that we originally had. the one that wasn't good enough for power hungry leftwing robber barons who used the crisis of the 1930s to piss on the constitution and the tenth amendment.

    appealing to the lowest common denominator might win elections for the dems and make their greedy masters rich but it only deteriorates the nation
    What has caused the nation to deteriorate, is 3 decades of trickle down economics, the same policy you wish to continue. But I will promise that if I find a way to send you back in time to your preferred period, just before the Great Depression, I will.
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    Re: Do you view Social Security as an entitlement?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Turtle when you cannot proffer a logical argument you just play everything off as lies without even explaining how they are lies..
    the only lies I have seen tonight come from people who claim that because the marginal tax rates have decreased that means the FIT structure is less progressive



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    Re: Do you view Social Security as an entitlement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What has caused the nation to deteriorate, is 3 decades of trickle down economics, the same policy you wish to continue. But I will promise that if I find a way to send you back in time to your preferred period, just before the Great Depression, I will.
    Yawn, you make so many excuses for people who have become addicted to entitlements and have no ambition. You seem to think you are entitled to wealth you didn't earn.



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    Re: Do you view Social Security as an entitlement?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the only lies I have seen tonight come from people who claim that because the marginal tax rates have decreased that means the FIT structure is less progressive
    Oh, we have made progress, you used to claim that marginal tax rates have not decreased. Now, all you have to do is learn that trickle down economics creating a recession so that the middle class have less jobs with which to pay taxes does not make your case that the middle class is not paying their fair share.
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    Re: Do you view Social Security as an entitlement?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Yawn, you make so many excuses for people who have become addicted to entitlements and have no ambition. You seem to think you are entitled to wealth you didn't earn.
    What people are addicted to are jobs. That is why we have decided to scrap trickle down economics and the politicians that support it.
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    Re: Do you view Social Security as an entitlement?

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Go ahead touch SS I would love to see the republican party self destruct, the USA would be much better off with the party of NO no longer a part of our politics
    IMO, the GOP has sold out to the scum of America. There, I have said it, but it does not make me happy.
    We do in fact need the conservatives to balance things, and "things" are not in balance.
    Most, or many people today are healthier, there is no reason why social security cannot "keep up".
    Change the retirement age to 67 for most Americans...but not the coal miners....and other hazardous to ones health occupations..

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    Re: Do you view Social Security as an entitlement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What people are addicted to are jobs. That is why we have decided to scrap trickle down economics and the politicians that support it.
    But this seems not to be working, judging from the latest election results.
    And of course, social security is an entitlement, but, like so many other things, it needs to be "fine tuned".
    We need politicians willing to do this....both conservatives and liberals....willing to work together for the benefit of their nation,,,maybe thats what we need, a "rebirth" of idealism, and a death of negativism.

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    Re: Do you view Social Security as an entitlement?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the only lies I have seen tonight come from people who claim that because the marginal tax rates have decreased that means the FIT structure is less progressive
    Narrow mindedness always can only see one point of view...their own

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