View Poll Results: Do you view social security is an entitlement that can be altered?

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  • Yes, it should be eliminated completely.

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  • Yes, I could handle a small level of program reduction.

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  • No, its my money, and the government has no right to touch it.

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    Re: Do you view Social Security as an entitlement?

    The same people that whine about Social Security forget a few points....number one, people that are on social security paid it all their lives...NOT BY CHOICE...we were forced to pay social security. For people that make above middleclass pay its not a problem to pay social security and pay into a bigger private retirement plan...For lower middleclass and the working poor most could not afford to pay SS and an additional private retirement.

    I keep asking all the hot shot teapartiers, the get RID OF ALL ENTITLEMENTS...no pensions, no health benefits nothing....I keep asking them what do they think is going to happen with 60% of the country gets old and has no pension or health benes....do we start digging mass graves...
    One way or another your going to pay...

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    Re: Do you view Social Security as an entitlement?

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    Just curious as to how people view Social Security. I myself do NOT view it as an entitlement, considering its MY money I have been putting in the program for years and years. I dont believe Social Security should even be on the table for negotations leverage in debt debates. Curious to see how everyone else thinks.
    I think it is an entitlement in the sense you actually put money into this in order to get it back later and the government has no right to touch it so you are entitled to get it back when you are too old or too crippled to work. I do not think there should be a means testing for it because of the simple fact you put into and practically everyone has, some more than others. The way I look at is if they want to end SS then they better give me and every American who has put in money for SS back every dime we put into plus interest and extra to account for inflation. You don't say hey we are forcefully take money out because you might need this later when you are too old or too crippled to work and then not give you back anything.
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    Re: Do you view Social Security as an entitlement?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    The same people that whine about Social Security forget a few points....number one, people that are on social security paid it all their lives...NOT BY CHOICE...we were forced to pay social security. For people that make above middleclass pay its not a problem to pay social security and pay into a bigger private retirement plan...For lower middleclass and the working poor most could not afford to pay SS and an additional private retirement.

    I keep asking all the hot shot teapartiers, the get RID OF ALL ENTITLEMENTS...no pensions, no health benefits nothing....I keep asking them what do they think is going to happen with 60% of the country gets old and has no pension or health benes....do we start digging mass graves...
    One way or another your going to pay...
    65 is not old. Most 65 year olds are perfectly capable of continuing to work for a living. We've just created a culture where 65 is "retirement age" and people expect the government to help take care of them for the rest of their lives. I could live with social security as it was originally intended - as old age insurance for those who beat the odds and lived past the average life expectancy. The problem we have is people who believe they are entitled to a 10, 15, or 20 year retirement where they do nothing but collect a check every month from the government, even if they never saved or invested a penny in their entire lives.

    The eligibility age for SS (and its cousin, Medicare) needs to be raised north of 70 and it should be done quickly. Saving on five years (or more) worth's of payments to millions of seniors would help return the program to fiscal solvency. And the sooner we do it, the better.
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    Re: Do you view Social Security as an entitlement?

    How hateful do you have to be to want to have money I paid into the system taken from me now that I am receiving some of it back.

    I got my Social Security card when I went to work when I was 12 or 13 and paid into the system for a very long time, and the money in the system has been raided a few times or there would be no problem in the future,.

    BTW all the talk about SS being a problem is a crock this system is fine for the next 6 years at least and if the fake disabled and fraud was properly addressed it would last even longer.

    Changes need to be made but not for those on the system now.

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    Re: Do you view Social Security as an entitlement?

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    Just curious as to how people view Social Security. I myself do NOT view it as an entitlement, considering its MY money I have been putting in the program for years and years. I dont believe Social Security should even be on the table for negotations leverage in debt debates. Curious to see how everyone else thinks.
    Don't know if this has been said... but that it's your money is exactly what entitles you to it. It is in fact an real and legitimate entitlement. The word has been perverted and misused so long no one seems to know what it actually means anymore.

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    Re: Do you view Social Security as an entitlement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    How hateful do you have to be to want to have money I paid into the system taken from me now that I am receiving some of it back.

    I got my Social Security card when I went to work when I was 12 or 13 and paid into the system for a very long time, and the money in the system has been raided a few times or there would be no problem in the future,.

    BTW all the talk about SS being a problem is a crock this system is fine for the next 6 years at least and if the fake disabled and fraud was properly addressed it would last even longer.

    Changes need to be made but not for those on the system now.
    So glad to see others are waking to this!

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    Re: Do you view Social Security as an entitlement?

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    How hateful do you have to be to want to have money I paid into the system taken from me now that I am receiving some of it back.

    I got my Social Security card when I went to work when I was 12 or 13 and paid into the system for a very long time, and the money in the system has been raided a few times or there would be no problem in the future,.

    BTW all the talk about SS being a problem is a crock this system is fine for the next 6 years at least and if the fake disabled and fraud was properly addressed it would last even longer.

    Changes need to be made but not for those on the system now.
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    Re: Do you view Social Security as an entitlement?

    I'd rather SS be made optional - sign up stay in, no change. Opt out, take your money, invest it yourself.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Do you view Social Security as an entitlement?

    Quote Originally Posted by SypherAL View Post
    Just curious as to how people view Social Security. I myself do NOT view it as an entitlement, considering its MY money I have been putting in the program for years and years. I dont believe Social Security should even be on the table for negotations leverage in debt debates. Curious to see how everyone else thinks.
    The govt shouldn't have collected it in the first place.
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    Re: Do you view Social Security as an entitlement?

    Here's how the system should work. You can open a tax-free bank account with the government with an interest rate pegged to inflation, and you're not allowed withdraw any money from it until you retire. Actually putting money into it is entirely voluntary. The government is not allowed to spend your money on other things, except things which actually produce income to pay for your interest.
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