View Poll Results: Should the woman's choice dictate that the man has to pay child support?

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  • Should the woman be responsible for her own choice to not abort?

    16 37.21%
  • Should the man be forced to pay child support due to the choice of the woman?

    14 32.56%
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Thread: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    You ignored a whole post of mine and have not even addressed, let alone refuted the claim that the issue is about choice...
    What post? Yes, I have addressed it. Again, the man is free to choose his part in the reproductive act. His part ends when he plants his seed. The woman's does not.

    I don't need to go into how a court could deal with the issue of how not being alive is better than being alive anymore than a woman does when justifying her abortion.
    Yes, you do, since no one is going to go along with having the state kill the baby.

    I don't need to go into how a court could deal with the issue of how the state could repair the child to the state of being had the negligent act not occurred because I don't even understand what this incoherent rant is addressing. What state of being? What negligent act?
    Your lack of comprehension of these common legal terms only proves this is way over your head. In order for the father to sue the mother he has to establish that she acted in a negligent manner. In your scenario the negligent act would be punching holes in the condom or using the his sperm to impregnate herself. In order to return the child and father to the state they were in prior to the negligent act the child life would have to be ended.

    There is nothing incoherent in what I wrote. Your lack of a capacity to understand does not prove my statements incoherent. It just proves that you are a dim bulb.

    I addressed how the court could and should deal with this in this thread and in other threads already. The woman informs the man she is pregnant within a timely manner (ASAP), he declares his intent. If intent is to not be involved he legally informs her ASAP. She then has the choice to abort or to have the baby. If she has the baby then all financial support is on her, since she made a choice to have the baby knowing that the man would not be involved. If she aborts then the situation is over. This can and has happened... but it is extremely rare if not almost unique. The problem is that most most most women would never agree to this. Why? Why would they when they can have the baby anyway and force the man to help pay for their choice.
    We are talking about your points on the woman tricking the man into impregnating her. You backpedaled on what you are now reasserting above in your response to David D. #250.

    Address that. As yet, you have not. That is why I am the winner. I am a winner and eating some tasty ass sushi too... I am also going to meet the US Ambassador in about 15 minutes for cocktails.
    You abandoned that point. I have addressed it numerous times and you have yet to respond.

    You are a loser that does not understand simple legal concepts, like negligence.

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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Incoherhent! Incoherent!

    You remind me of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory Johnny Depp... he didn't like the relevant things that the kids were saying so he tells them that he can't understand a word that they are saying since they keep mumbling... dude, you're funny.
    Yeah because sentences like...

    In reality a child isnt effect by forcing a person to by child support who doesn't want to be a parent

    ... are crystal clear.

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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Quote Originally Posted by RStringfield View Post
    Non responsive.

    I have no need to save face. It is your inability to form a coherent point that is an embarrassment.
    ANOTHER failed insult and still nothing of merit

    Funny its you doing all the attacking lol on top of the lying and dishonesty its very telling

    I stand by my true the combination of all my statements: "In reality, a child ins't effect by forcing a person who doesn't want to be a parent to pay child support. In the majority of these cases the child support will have little to no effect."
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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Incoherhent! Incoherent!

    You remind me of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory Johnny Depp... he didn't like the relevant things that the kids were saying so he tells them that he can't understand a word that they are saying since they keep mumbling... dude, you're funny.
    yeah thats what I was thinking, he ignored so much. The he tried to change his statement, my statements, your statements and claimed they weren't related to the OP which YOU wrote LMAO

    I dont understand why anybody would do that when all the proof just stays here? Why lie, be dishonest and try to make stuff up.
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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Considering that abortion is considered a method of birth control, I believe that the mother should be responsible for her choice to abort or not; this means, the father is not responsible for her decision in any way unless he chooses to be. jmo

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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    yeah thats what I was thinking, he ignored so much. The he tried to change his statement, my statements, your statements and claimed they weren't related to the OP which YOU wrote LMAO

    I dont understand why anybody would do that when all the proof just stays here? Why lie, be dishonest and try to make stuff up.
    I made this great post yesterday in reply to him but it failed to load. What a shame, because now I don't seem to have the interest in debating him.

    *sigh* Oh, I'll give it another try I guess...
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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Quote Originally Posted by RStringfield View Post
    Yeah because sentences like...

    In reality a child isnt effect by forcing a person to by child support who doesn't want to be a parent

    ... are crystal clear.
    Link that sentence because I seriously doubt I wrote that. If I did then any honest person would see how I write the rest of my posts and take it with a grain of salt, realizing that it was some sort of mistake instead of harping on it as if it was a major victory.
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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Quote Originally Posted by RStringfield View Post
    What post? Yes, I have addressed it. Again, the man is free to choose his part in the reproductive act. His part ends when he plants his seed. The woman's does not.
    Repeat it again and maybe the debate gods will grant you everlasting victory!

    Yes, you do, since no one is going to go along with having the state kill the baby.
    The state does not kill babies...

    Your lack of comprehension of these common legal terms only proves this is way over your head. In order for the father to sue the mother he has to establish that she acted in a negligent manner. In your scenario the negligent act would be punching holes in the condom or using the his sperm to impregnate herself. In order to return the child and father to the state they were in prior to the negligent act the child life would have to be ended.
    Help me teacher... negligence is failure to take appropriate care, is it not? Gee, that sure was a tough one. That being said, I am not talking about after the fact lawsuits, so your point is irrelevant.

    There is nothing incoherent in what I wrote. Your lack of a capacity to understand does not prove my statements incoherent. It just proves that you are a dim bulb.
    Dude, are you in high school? I was teasing you about your repeated use of calling others incoherent.

    We are talking about your points on the woman tricking the man into impregnating her. You backpedaled on what you are now reasserting above in your response to David D. #250.
    Lie.

    You abandoned that point. I have addressed it numerous times and you have yet to respond.
    Lie.

    You are a loser that does not understand simple legal concepts, like negligence.
    Dang man... you are harsh. Quit it or you will hurt my feelings...










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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Repeat it again and maybe the debate gods will grant you everlasting victory!
    Didn't think that I would ge ta response...
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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Quote Originally Posted by BayToBay View Post
    What post? Yes, I have addressed it. Again, the man is free to choose his part in the reproductive act. His part ends when he plants his seed. The woman's does not.



    Yes, you do, since no one is going to go along with having the state kill the baby.



    Your lack of comprehension of these common legal terms only proves this is way over your head. In order for the father to sue the mother he has to establish that she acted in a negligent manner. In your scenario the negligent act would be punching holes in the condom or using the his sperm to impregnate herself. In order to return the child and father to the state they were in prior to the negligent act the child life would have to be ended.

    There is nothing incoherent in what I wrote. Your lack of a capacity to understand does not prove my statements incoherent. It just proves that you are a dim bulb.



    We are talking about your points on the woman tricking the man into impregnating her. You backpedaled on what you are now reasserting above in your response to David D. #250.



    You abandoned that point. I have addressed it numerous times and you have yet to respond.

    You are a loser that does not understand simple legal concepts, like negligence.
    Care to back any of htat up?
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