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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If that is your attitude, you deserve to have to pay child support. I have no sympathy for your willfully ignorant position and will not waste further time on you.
    translation: you have no logical or reality based argument or anything of merit so you give up

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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Every time. It's her body to do with as she will, and if she chooses to have the baby he put there, he needs to man up and provide for his issue.
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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If that is your attitude, you deserve to have to pay child support. I have no sympathy for your willfully ignorant position and will not waste further time on you.
    Still won't address the actual argument... dude, you're funny. Thinking that you are arguing well and all...
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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Every time. It's her body to do with as she will, and if she chooses to have the baby he put there, he needs to man up and provide for his issue.
    Man up? This isn't a battle... this is a legal construct designed by women and the feminist friendly courts that have magically given the woman ALL OF THE POWER hidden within the realistic point that she should have control over her own body, that's all. The two are not inter-connected by any biological fact. The whole argument has been twisted and twisted until everybody has been brainwashed into the idea that it is not politically correct to challenge the existing system. You are a dead beat dad if you do. You are a mysoginist if you do. You are a whiney man not being resonsible if you argue against it. It is all horse **** and those that can't at least question against the existing system are sheeple just but obtuse.
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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Man up? This isn't a battle... this is a legal construct designed by women and the feminist friendly courts that have magically given the woman ALL OF THE POWER hidden within the realistic point that she should have control over her own body, that's all. The two are not inter-connected by any biological fact. The whole argument has been twisted and twisted until everybody has been brainwashed into the idea that it is not politically correct to challenge the existing system. You are a dead beat dad if you do. You are a mysoginist if you do. You are a whiney man not being resonsible if you argue against it. It is all horse **** and those that can't at least question against the existing system are sheeple just but obtuse.
    Wow again for being very deep about it.
    And yep, totally designed by women, woefully ignorant women, whose idea of all men is that we are all dead-beats. I would suggest that maybe those of you who haven't been to a family court hearing should go, even if you just stand outside the courtroom you will see. You will see all of the ugly truth.
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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Everything effects everything... that is no argument. Sorry...
    What a wimpy response. You said...

    In reality the child isnt effected by forced "child support" so that debate is pointless
    Now you are saying it does but due to some "butterfly effect" bull****, but that it should not matter? If a parent abandons their child that is going to have a direct and severe effect on the child.

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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    Did somebody argue that parents abandoning a child has no effect?
    nope

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    Bodhisattva said...

    In reality the child isnt effected by forced "child support" so that debate is pointless

    So... yep.

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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    That is the basic scenario, yes. What of the other times though... when the woman tricks her partner or gets a guy purposely drunk or pricks wholes in the condom? What then? Screw him?
    Please. We should base laws on some stupid scenario that you have dreamed up and ignore the reality of how virtually all pregnancies occur?

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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    And if she doesn't want to get stuck with all the responsibility for a child then she too shouldn't have sex. Problem solved.
    Again, a man's part in the reproductive process ends when he plants his seed. That is not even close to true for the woman. She has just begun and the sex act will seem grossly insignificant compared to the efforts that she will take to finish the pregnancy and bear a child. We can't make this equal by law. It is a fact of biology.

    Each and every individual has an equal right to control what part they take in reproduction. The fact that the man's role is pretty minor does not change the fact he has taken part in the process willingly and is therefore responsible for the result.

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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Still won't address the actual argument... dude, you're funny. Thinking that you are arguing well and all...
    You have no argument. Pay your dues for your child, or keep the solution in your own hands.
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