View Poll Results: Should the woman's choice dictate that the man has to pay child support?

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  • Should the woman be responsible for her own choice to not abort?

    16 37.21%
  • Should the man be forced to pay child support due to the choice of the woman?

    14 32.56%
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    13 30.23%
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Thread: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    In your world women bear zero responsibility.
    Please quote where I said that. Thanks!
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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It is physically impossible for her to have his baby if he doesn't contribute sperm. If he doesn't want a baby, all he has to do is wear a condom or not have sex.

    Problem solved!
    this is simply dishonesty and or unrealistic, pick one

    the problem is NOT solve

    people lie, birth control fails, accidents happen
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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    And if she gets pregnant, she made the choice to have him stick his penis in her. So now she should live with the consequences.
    Sure, she should live with the consequences but when she can't, then my position is that the man has to step up before the State (meaning me and other innocent taxpayers) have to foot the bill for the care of the child.

    She takes first responsibility. If she can't meet the conditions of care, then,
    He takes next responsibility. If she and he can't meet the conditions of care, then,
    The taxpayers have to step in.

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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It is physically impossible for her to have his baby if he doesn't contribute sperm. If he doesn't want a baby, all he has to do is wear a condom or not have sex.

    Problem solved!
    And if she doesn't want to get stuck with all the responsibility for a child then she too shouldn't have sex. Problem solved.

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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It is physically impossible for her to have his baby if he doesn't contribute sperm. If he doesn't want a baby, all he has to do is wear a condom or not have sex.

    Problem solved!
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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Please quote where I said that. Thanks!
    Read your own freaking post, man. Don't play game with me. You're pro-woman all the way, men have no rights. They need to pay women no matter what choice they make. Don't you read your own ****?


    It's not even metrosexual.
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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    this is simply dishonesty and or unrealistic, pick one

    the problem is NOT solve

    people lie, birth control fails, accidents happen
    How so? If used properly, condoms are about 98% effective, even more so if used in conjunction with other forms of contraception such as spermacide. How does lying come into play with condom use?

    Who has unprotected sex today anyway with STD's out there, including aids?
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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Read your own freaking post, man. Don't play game with me. You're pro-woman all the way, men have no rights. They need to pay women no matter what choice they make. Don't you read your own ****?


    It's not even metrosexual.
    I see you were unable to provide a quote to back up your claim.
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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    And if she doesn't want to get stuck with all the responsibility for a child then she too shouldn't have sex. Problem solved.
    You omitted the contraception option.
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    Re: Should Woman's Choice Trump the Man's??

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    How so? If used properly, condoms are about 98% effective, even more so if used in conjunction with other forms of contraception such as spermacide. How does lying come into play with condom use?

    Who has unprotected sex today anyway with STD's out there, including aids?
    reality is how so, where do you live in fantasy land?

    condoms break all the time, other methods also fail including spermicide which some people are also allergic too or cant use.

    Lots of couples have unprotected sex with just the girl using a form of birthcontrol

    Like I said REALITY

    I dont know where you live but thinking protection works so well and that people dont have unprotected sex is nonsense.
    also the 98% rate is bogus because thats stated with "perfect use" and then its always stated like 85% with "typical use" and then you start to see the real picture really fast. Roughly that translates into what, 15 out of 100 times theres a chance of pregnancy! whats the work out to a year with a normal active young couple? about 45+ times in a year they could have got pregnant? if the couples lives together 90+ times in a year?

    Sorry not buying it to much reality to trump your vacuum example
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