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    Re: Child Support Payments

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    All this is great but you haven't addressed the fate of the born child at all.

    If the man doesn't have to take responsibility and the woman doesn't abort, what then?

    Before child support laws, men did exactly that. The laws came into place precisely because of deadbeat dads. I'll say the statistic again... 84% of single parents are women, the rest are men. And guess what, child support laws work in reverse as well. There are single dads who have to go after deadbeat mothers for support to. The law is applied fairly.

    Now, are you going to address the core issue of child welfare, or are you going to keep fiddling with gender power dynamics? Please provide an outline for how children will be cared for if men can "financially abort".
    if the core issue was "child welfare" abortion would be illegal.
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    Re: Child Support Payments

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    Nor and sometimes abortion is medically necessary..
    and that should be the only time it is legal
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    Re: Child Support Payments

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    he has no legal right to prevent her from having an abortion
    And she has no legal right to prevent him from having one
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    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    disingenuous at the core. a sure sign of desperation
    Not at all

    A point was made that both people should see the repercussions of their actions. Does that not also mean the man should have similar repercussions during pregnancy. Currently he gets off scott free, no morning sickness, no weight gain, no pushing a bowling ball through their body.
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    Re: Child Support Payments

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    And she has no legal right to prevent him from having one
    again,,, disingenuous at the core. more desperation
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    Re: Child Support Payments

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    So to make each person have repercussions from their actions regarding pregnancy, should men be given drugs that make them sick in the morning, gain about 30 lbs or so and eventually pass a bowling ball through their penis?
    No. Men have to put up with women. Time served.
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    Re: Child Support Payments

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    All this is great but you haven't addressed the fate of the born child at all.

    If the man doesn't have to take responsibility and the woman doesn't abort, what then?

    Before child support laws, men did exactly that. The laws came into place precisely because of deadbeat dads. I'll say the statistic again... 84% of single parents are women, the rest are men. And guess what, child support laws work in reverse as well. There are single dads who have to go after deadbeat mothers for support to. The law is applied fairly.

    Now, are you going to address the core issue of child welfare, or are you going to keep fiddling with gender power dynamics? Please provide an outline for how children will be cared for if men can "financially abort".
    Perhaps part of those numbers for single parents is because women DON'T LET men be the single parent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No. Men have to put up with women. Time served.
    I think women tend to feel the same way
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    Re: Child Support Payments

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Not at all

    A point was made that both people should see the repercussions of their actions. Does that not also mean the man should have similar repercussions during pregnancy. Currently he gets off scott free, no morning sickness, no weight gain, no pushing a bowling ball through their body.
    not all women get morning sickness, not all women gain 30+ pounds, should those women be denied abortions? hmmmm


    and the day a man's urethra is the same diameter as a vagina, you can squeal about pissing out a bowling ball.


    your post was complete and utter tripe.
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    Re: Child Support Payments

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    Perhaps part of those numbers for single parents is because women DON'T LET men be the single parent.
    exactly, better to kill the fetus than allow the father to be a single parent
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