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    Do Higher-Incomes Work Harder than Lower-Incomes?

    I continually hear people expressing this sentiment, and it has never seemed true to me. If work is defined as "effort over time", then how could someone like Bill Gates live long enough to earn his fortune, relative to that enjoyed by other people? Many doctors, example, seem to put more "effort over time" into their careers, without ever gaining anywhere near the sum of money Bill Gates enjoys.

    Bill Gates obtained his wealth, not because of his own "effort over time", but because, in accordance with the conventions of capitalism, he networked himself into a position where he could compel others to sign a portions of their "labor over time" to him via contract. As long as this practice isn't pushed to its excesses, I don't have a problem with it, but getting wealthy through good networking is a significantly different process than earning your money through hard work.
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    Re: Do Higher-Incomes Work Harder than Lower-Incomes?

    Prediction-another thread whining about the rich is born.

    generally wealth comes from working hard, working smart and becoming able to provide a great deal of value to others.

    working hard and working smart is no guarantee but not working hard and not working smart is rarely going to result in one being wealthy



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    Re: Do Higher-Incomes Work Harder than Lower-Incomes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Prediction-another thread whining about the rich is born.

    generally wealth comes from working hard, working smart and becoming able to provide a great deal of value to others.

    working hard and working smart is no guarantee but not working hard and not working smart is rarely going to result in one being wealthy
    So, you don't consider the possibility that hard work doesn't necessarily result in great wealth to be spiritually, morally, politically, or economically significant.
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    Re: Do Higher-Incomes Work Harder than Lower-Incomes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    So, you don't consider the possibility that hard work doesn't necessarily result in great wealth to be spiritually, morally, politically, or economically significant.
    Some is rich and some is poor
    that's the way the world is
    but I don't believe in lying back and saying
    how bad your luck is

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    I coach kids in a couple Olympic sports. I have seen kids work their butts off and never even make All America while other kids don't work any harder and win world and olympic medals.

    Is it fair?



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    Re: Do Higher-Incomes Work Harder than Lower-Incomes?

    It depends on how your define "work." Most higher income earners have worked hard to gain an education that qualified them for the job they have. This, or they worked hard and worked their way up their career's ladder.
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    Re: Do Higher-Incomes Work Harder than Lower-Incomes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Some is rich and some is poor
    that's the way the world is
    but I don't believe in lying back and saying
    how bad your luck is

    Joe Strummer

    I coach kids in a couple Olympic sports. I have seen kids work their butts off and never even make All America while other kids don't work any harder and win world and olympic medals.

    Is it fair?
    I don't think we can make the world fair, but it should still modify how we think and what we do about these matters.
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    Re: Do Higher-Incomes Work Harder than Lower-Incomes?

    I support equal opportunity, not so much "fair." Fair is a subjective term.
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    Re: Do Higher-Incomes Work Harder than Lower-Incomes?

    We have talked about this before and you will never fully convince me that someone sitting in an AC office is working harder than someone busting their ass doing road construction. Having said that? It all comes down to what you define as hard work and of course a scientist sitting in a lab using their brainpower to try to find a cure for all cancers is for sure working as hard as someone that is working on that road and that work may even be more important than safe roads. So honestly? I guess it just depends.
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    Re: Do Higher-Incomes Work Harder than Lower-Incomes?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I support equal opportunity, not so much "fair." Fair is a subjective term.
    Not as much as you would think. What's fair in a given situation isn't that hard to work out if you follow the relationships, dependencies, and contributions at work in that situation.
    Last edited by Morality Games; 08-30-11 at 12:20 AM.
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    Re: Do Higher-Incomes Work Harder than Lower-Incomes?

    Anna Nicole Smith worked hard for her money... so hard for her money

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