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    Re: Do Higher-Incomes Work Harder than Lower-Incomes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    No Gipper everybody CANNOT push a broom or make change in a cash register.

    This whole thread is yet another classism thread.
    Its never classism or classwarfare when they do it...its only the working class that uses class warfare...

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    Re: Do Higher-Incomes Work Harder than Lower-Incomes?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    true but working as hard is not a guarantee of winning. and yes natural talent is the single most important factor.

    the point is-there are at least a thousand boys born the same year as Roger Federer who worked just as hard in tennis and had just as much top coaching. Some of those guys are people you may have heard of-David Nalbandian for one. 990 you have never heard of and never will.

    Working hard at a job and working for olympic gold is two different things...athletics is aptitude and physical ability....if you dont have the physical capability doesnt matter how much you work at it...you will fail.
    I dont see how that can be associated with....Do Higher incomes work harder than lower income

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    Re: Do Higher-Incomes Work Harder than Lower-Incomes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    College is not for everyone and usually to get white collar jobs you must have a degree. Just because you are math smart does not make you smarter than the average blue collar worker out busting their ass doing hard labor. As a matter of fact some of those blue collar workers may be able to out debate you on any given subject.
    I agree college and white collar jobs aren't for everyone. One of my biggest pet peeves is when people complain about something they have (or had) the power to control. If you can't (or won't) work towards earning a white collar job then I don't want to hear your whining about your blue collar job.
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    Re: Do Higher-Incomes Work Harder than Lower-Incomes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    I agree college and white collar jobs aren't for everyone. One of my biggest pet peeves is when people complain about something they have (or had) the power to control. If you can't (or won't) work towards earning a white collar job then I don't want to hear your whining about your blue collar job.
    Who says being white collar is better than blue collar?

    I know some welders who possess eminence skills that a mathematician would be envious of.

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    Re: Do Higher-Incomes Work Harder than Lower-Incomes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    I agree college and white collar jobs aren't for everyone. One of my biggest pet peeves is when people complain about something they have (or had) the power to control. If you can't (or won't) work towards earning a white collar job then I don't want to hear your whining about your blue collar job.
    What the shame is today that its not how hard you work to achieve the job you want anymore...its the specific job you work hard for...Today Highly educated teachers are being maligned by the tearparty as Union thugs and Lazy Public workers and thieves and some of them have more education than many other professions that make TONS more money. An educator with a doctorate has more education than a lawyer or an accountant
    Police Officers today need a college degree....working hard does NOT mean success...some people are given success its handed to them...some just have a boss that likes them that moves them up....this notion that everyone that makes alot of money broke their ass to get it...is just pure hogwash

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    Re: Do Higher-Incomes Work Harder than Lower-Incomes?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Who says being white collar is better than blue collar?

    I know some welders who possess eminence skills that a mathematician would be envious of.
    I don't see too many white collar workers whining about not getting a blue collar job, contrary to the other direction. What matters is getting a job you enjoy.
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    Re: Do Higher-Incomes Work Harder than Lower-Incomes?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    What the shame is today that its not how hard you work to achieve the job you want anymore...its the specific job you work hard for...Today Highly educated teachers are being maligned by the tearparty as Union thugs and Lazy Public workers and thieves and some of them have more education than many other professions that make TONS more money. An educator with a doctorate has more education than a lawyer or an accountant
    Police Officers today need a college degree....working hard does NOT mean success...some people are given success its handed to them...some just have a boss that likes them that moves them up....this notion that everyone that makes alot of money broke their ass to get it...is just pure hogwash
    While working hard doesn't guarantee success, you'll have a tough time finding any reasonable examples of harder work reducing your chance of success.
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    Re: Do Higher-Incomes Work Harder than Lower-Incomes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    I don't see too many white collar workers whining about not getting a blue collar job, contrary to the other direction. What matter is getting a job you enjoy.
    I know accountants who hate their jobs and would love to be furniture makers.

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    Re: Do Higher-Incomes Work Harder than Lower-Incomes?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Its never classism or classwarfare when they do it...its only the working class that uses class warfare...
    Actually, go back and look at the OP and see if he started this thread with the intent to suggest that white collar workers are somehow better than blue collar workers. If anything, he's suggesting the opposite, so how is this a "classism" thread?

    Incidentally, regarding the Bill Gates analogy, one thing that's being overlooked is that he took the risk of starting his business. Had it failed, the failure would be on his part and nobody would feel that was unfair. It's only now that he's a great success do some feel the amount of money he makes is, somehow, unfair.
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    Re: Do Higher-Incomes Work Harder than Lower-Incomes?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Actually, go back and look at the OP and see if he started this thread with the intent to suggest that white collar workers are somehow better than blue collar workers. If anything, he's suggesting the opposite, so how is this a "classism" thread?

    Incidentally, regarding the Bill Gates analogy, one thing that's being overlooked is that he took the risk of starting his business. Had it failed, the failure would be on his part and nobody would feel that was unfair. It's only now that he's a great success do some feel the amount of money he makes is, somehow, unfair.
    I never said the thread was started or intended to be a classim thread but like all thread it morphs and some change the whole flavor of a thread...

    Bill gates certanly did start his business in a garage and he didnt do it alone he had a partner...Allen who id bet was the brains behind it...Gates and Microsoft have a long history of stealing others technology and they were convicted for some..they crushed many a company on their rise and did much dirty crap....but You have to give Gates credit he started with nothing...the same with Dell a young guy started with nothing...I truly admire those guys...I admire that kind of gumption and they deserve what they get....but please dont try to tell me the lionshare of rich are like Gates and Dell and Jobs and some of the other big names....the list is endless of rich that didnt do squat...Paris Hilton, Anna Nicole Smith died a billionaire
    How bout gates and Jobs and dells kids...hard life ? Do you realize how many 2nd and third gen money is out there that these rich just born into it..
    It goes both ways

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