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  • 1.) It would not allow recipients more than is needed to survive

    7 46.67%
  • 2.) The reward for getting off welfare would be: recipients could afford more than necessities

    3 20.00%
  • 3.) programs would be temporary (recipients can only be on welfare for a certain period)

    11 73.33%
  • 4.) It would grant small monetary payouts for every step forward

    6 40.00%
  • 5.) Recipients would experience a sufficiently higher standard of living after getting off welfare

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Thread: Is it possible to create a welfare system that rewards people to be self-sufficient?

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    Is it possible to create a welfare system that rewards people to be self-sufficient?

    One of the big problems people have sited with our current welfare system is that it currently does not provide and incentive for people to get off welfare. How could a welfare system be created so that recipients would be motivated to get off welfare?

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    Re: Is it possible to create a welfare system that rewards people to be self-sufficie

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    One of the big problems people have sited with our current welfare system is that it currently does not provide and incentive for people to get off welfare. How could a welfare system be created so that recipients would be motivated to get off welfare?
    Thats a tough question...but how about a job service another words your on welfare and if they offer you a job and you refuse...no more welfare...I think that would be fair. You shouldnt be getting public assistance as a guarantee its to help you survive till you can get on your feet...if you turn down a job then its on you

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    Re: Is it possible to create a welfare system that rewards people to be self-sufficie

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Thats a tough question...but how about a job service another words your on welfare and if they offer you a job and you refuse...no more welfare...I think that would be fair. You shouldnt be getting public assistance as a guarantee its to help you survive till you can get on your feet...if you turn down a job then its on you
    I agree, even if people are disabled, whatever they are able to do, they should do - everyone should contribute

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    Re: Is it possible to create a welfare system that rewards people to be self-sufficie

    Receiving welfare should include mandatory work or participation in a 2-year certification program for a field experiencing growth or high job demand. Upon completion of said program you will have access to an additional 6 months of payments while you seek a job in that field. At the end of that additional 6 months all benefits are discontinued.

    Welfare recipients should also be mandated to take child development and intro to education classes as well as financial planning and money management classes.
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    Re: Is it possible to create a welfare system that rewards people to be self-sufficie

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Receiving welfare should include mandatory work or participation in a 2-year certification program for a field experiencing growth or high job demand. Upon completion of said program you will have access to an additional 6 months of payments while you seek a job in that field. At the end of that additional 6 months all benefits are discontinued.

    Welfare recipients should also be mandated to take child development and intro to education classes as well as financial planning and money management classes.
    This sound reasonable to me (of course educational course may need to be adjusted to meet the recipients disability level, i.e. physical, mental and intellectual disability levels)

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    Re: Is it possible to create a welfare system that rewards people to be self-sufficie

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    This sound reasonable to me (of course educational course may need to be adjusted to meet the recipients disability level, i.e. physical, mental and intellectual disability levels)
    There are a lot of existing transition centers for those with disabilities coming out of HS and moving into the work force. Perhaps those centers can act as consultants or be expanded upon to provide more detailed services.
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    Re: Is it possible to create a welfare system that rewards people to be self-sufficie

    Welfare's purpose should be to eliminate, as much as possible, the need for its own existence. - Ronald Reagan

    Anyway, it just needs to be disincentivized. The truth is that people can live quite well off the dole. I've seen people on all sorts of government assistance with their own place, own car, many of what can be listed as luxuries (air conditioning, computers, gaming consoles, etc.). That has to stop. We need to create the illusion - and make it real - that welfare recipients have a life barely above homelessness. Sardine can for a place, absolutely NO creature comforts, eating cold beans from a can. When you can have generally the same lifestyle as someone who works 40 hours a week without doing a thing, you'd be a fool to trade that in.

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    Re: Is it possible to create a welfare system that rewards people to be self-sufficie

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Welfare's purpose should be to eliminate, as much as possible, the need for its own existence. - Ronald Reagan

    Anyway, it just needs to be disincentivized. The truth is that people can live quite well off the dole. I've seen people on all sorts of government assistance with their own place, own car, many of what can be listed as luxuries (air conditioning, computers, gaming consoles, etc.). That has to stop. We need to create the illusion - and make it real - that welfare recipients have a life barely above homelessness. Sardine can for a place, absolutely NO creature comforts, eating cold beans from a can. When you can have generally the same lifestyle as someone who works 40 hours a week without doing a thing, you'd be a fool to trade that in.
    Just a point of record: In Texas, AC isn't a luxury. It's a necessity. The heat here can be (and is) deadly.
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    Re: Is it possible to create a welfare system that rewards people to be self-sufficie

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Welfare's purpose should be to eliminate, as much as possible, the need for its own existence. - Ronald Reagan

    Anyway, it just needs to be disincentivized. The truth is that people can live quite well off the dole. I've seen people on all sorts of government assistance with their own place, own car, many of what can be listed as luxuries (air conditioning, computers, gaming consoles, etc.). That has to stop. We need to create the illusion - and make it real - that welfare recipients have a life barely above homelessness. Sardine can for a place, absolutely NO creature comforts, eating cold beans from a can. When you can have generally the same lifestyle as someone who works 40 hours a week without doing a thing, you'd be a fool to trade that in.
    Do you apply this to those with genuine disabilities? What should their standard of living be?

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    Re: Is it possible to create a welfare system that rewards people to be self-sufficie

    If work is available, make it a requirement to supplement welfare. In a sense make it workfare. Eliminate the excuse" If I get a job they will stop my checks." Obviously this would not apply to everyone, but it would provide some motivation.
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