1.) It would not allow recipients more than is needed to survive
2.) The reward for getting off welfare would be: recipients could afford more than necessities
3.) programs would be temporary (recipients can only be on welfare for a certain period)
4.) It would grant small monetary payouts for every step forward
5.) Recipients would experience a sufficiently higher standard of living after getting off welfare
However, civilian hospitals have this happen too.
WSVN-TV - Hospital reviewing patient exposure to Hepatitis and HIV
Why HIV exposure at hospital may have happened – The Chart - CNN.com Blogs
Both VA and civilian hospitals have this stuff happen.
"A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt
Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.
I had a brief run-in with anxiety in the month that followed me being mugged, fresh on the road and green as hell. Scary, and bad timing. I had a couple panic attacks. I felt like I was going to die. Literally die. I couldn't breathe and it felt like my heart was going to explode. People go to the ER with panic attacks all the time because they think they're having a heart attack. And some of them have events like that frequently - several times a day, if they're in a triggering situation.
I'm lucky it was temporary for me (and lucky I knew what it was, from having taken a couple psych classes and from seeing someone have a panic attack before). Some people live with that all the time. That is much worse than being "uncomfortable," or "just wanting to be a hermit," and it's not something you can just get over. It's crippling. If that had been happening to me several times a day, I would say that I would definitely be unable to work.
That'll teach you real quick not to judge other people's situations and that it's not up to you whether they're "sick enough" or sick in a way that makes sense to you. It is true that experiencing minor or temporary mental health disturbances like anxiety and depression is pretty common and for most people something you can work through, but people who live with this stuff chronically and severely... they definitely deserve a bit of a break. I never want to feel anything like that again as long as I live. That was years ago, but I still remember that it absolutely sucked.
Last edited by SmokeAndMirrors; 08-25-11 at 11:42 PM.
I'll prepare for disastrous outcomes that may befall me and my family and you do the same for you and yours, and as they say, fences make for good neighbors.
What I'm saying is that it gave me an idea of what people who have anxiety more severely and more chronically might be going through, and for you to discount anxiety as ever being incapacitating is wrong. Anxiety can be mild or severe, temporary or chronic, like most everything else. The form and severity of the disorder is important in evaluating a person's ability to work.
Last edited by SmokeAndMirrors; 08-25-11 at 11:54 PM.
It's actually simple. Welfare should last a very short time and have strict requirements. You *MUST* get an education and/or job training while on welfare. You *MUST* have no more children while in welfare. After 2-3 years maximum, it runs out, no matter what and you are not eligible again for at least 5 years. Make it count or else.
The role of the state is not to be everyone's mommy. The state can provide the barest of care for the very worst off. Any shortfalls that develop can be funded by good-hearted citizens like yourself. Private charity is awesome in that it allows caring people to actually demonstrate that they are caring by sacrificing some of their own wellbeing by donating to organizations who help others. That's a far more satisfying demonstration of being a caring person than the preferred alternative of many, which is that agitating for taxes to be raised on others so that the proceeds can be spent on the programs one thinks need more funding. Picking someone else's pocket doesn't demonstrate caring.
Minimal welfare and enhanced private charity is the direction I prefer.
Last edited by RiverDad; 08-26-11 at 12:04 AM.
Now if liberals would realize this.Originally Posted by RiverDad
All the following services are provided as a percentage of income below poverty level - the more you make the less assistance you get and then once you are above the poverty level the assistance is cut-off - I believe all require that you are working or volunteering until you work - also there are waiting lists for certain assistance types (not sure exactly which ones though):
Temporary cash assistance: a small amount of cash supplement - program based on need basis i believe and that is temporary (not sure how long) and requires that recipients do education, if they don't have a GED I believe they have to do adult classes, then participate in approved trainings for jobs, or enroll in a degree based system that will likely ensure them a better job
Housing assistance (there are different types, some for those with disabilities, some for the elderly, some for people in poverty) - I believe the one for people in poverty requires all the people in the household to be working or if they can't find work, volunteering until they can - assistance is figured by charging rent that is like 30% of your monthly income - via voucher or in association with certain housing foundations - I believe there is a government assisted home owners version that is much more expensive, but less so than buying a house outright and people rent to own - very long waiting list
Cell phone can be provided for those in poverty with a small amount of minutes mainly meant enough minutes for emergencies and work related calls
Food Stamps - like 14% of income worth of food is provided (increases with family size)
Healthcare - covers doctors visits (not dental) and medications - there is one for the elderly and one for those in poverty - I believe this takes like a couple months or so to get accepted
Dental - some cities have dental clinics that offer lowered rates/sliding scale fees for those in poverty
Heating Assistance - minimum estimated heat cost is calculated then assistance is given via a voucher
Higher Education Assistance: there's a program call inspire or something that helps pay for books and transportation to college
Student Loans - government student loans help with tuition and a little bit of living costs depending on family size and one's age (under 25, students get much less assistance) - subsidized and unsubsidized loans - i.e. some loans accrue interest while the student is in school and some do not accrue interest until the individual is out of school - I believe you need to be getting a C or better in all your classes to continue to get student loans
Social Security - for people with disabilities helps with basic needs in the form of cash (i.e. a check) - I think this is next to impossible to acquire unless you are paralyzed or paralyzed from the waist down, or have been diagnosed with MR before the age of 18 - and I think it could take up to a year or more if you have any other kind of disability
That is all I can think of off the top of my head - Not sure if there are differences from State to State
The main problem with these systems is that there is a sudden cut-off of assistance - i.e. assistance abruptly stops at a certain income level - this encourages people to keep lower incomes because they wouldn't be able to afford their bills if they got off the system - it's pretty sick if you ask me - whoever thought the system up either were complete morons or there is some conspiracy to keep people on welfare
don't quote me on all of those, but that's what I can remember from talking to people and from college
Last edited by MusicAdventurer; 08-26-11 at 12:25 AM.