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    Re: Considering His standard - is Obama unpatriotic?

    I dont believe obama is unpatriotic in a sense he does not like america, I think Obama surrounded himself with the WRONG people that have given him nothing but bad advice. I think axelrod is a total AH and needs fired immediately.
    Obama tried to cover all americans with health care...which in itself is an admirable endeavor, but he did it ALL WRONG...if there was a mistake to be made trying to pass obamacare...the democrats made it. Pelosi shouldnt be incharge of a toilet. Her face on obamacare killed it before it ever had a chance...

    I believe obamas heart was in the right place, but he was to naive to understand the true power of the force that was against him...Rich and Corporate America...all this not hiring is by design...and there wont be much hiring until after the election...and no matter who wins the election...dem or republican...mark these words...hiring will flourish and the economy will start churning again....If the GOP wins the election...the teaparty will claim their way worked...if obama wins re election and hiring and the economy improves...the teaparty will claim their influence did it.

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    Re: Considering His standard - is Obama unpatriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Obama is not unpatriotic. He's UN-American being raised by Communists from mother and father, stepfather, grand parents and surrounding himself with them in college and spending 20 years under Rev. Wrights Black Liberation Theology church which is based in Marxism he knows nothing else.
    I'm confuzzed, doesn't Marxism call for the abolition of religion?
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    Re: Considering His standard - is Obama unpatriotic?

    Under "his standard," yes, it's unpatriotic. However, it's not really his standard. It was a stump speech. As was said before, a tactic used to smear the opposition.
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    Re: Considering His standard - is Obama unpatriotic?

    "Considering his standard" he was using the wrong standard. So, he was wrong in what he said, or he's a hypocrite, or he was being dishonest and inflammatory in order to get elected (go figure). I don't support Obama, and I think his Presidency is a danger to the US. But, I don't think you can judge his patriotism by his own incorrect standard. Agree with Bush or disagree, he was obviously a patriot. I could not say the same as easily about Obama, but not because of the debt/deficit. By Obama's definition, the majority of Congress would be unpatriotic, and a large portion of the American citizens would be unpatriotic because they refuse to call for tough decisions to be made even when it affects them. Mistaken - grossly mistaken, yes.
    The US is an odd ship. The captain yells out when he sees obtacles , but 535 individual propellers do the steering.

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    Re: Considering His standard - is Obama unpatriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Obama and Bush both failed the nation by their refusal to deal with rapidly increasing debt.
    although to be fair we can go back as far as 1913.

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    Re: Considering His standard - is Obama unpatriotic?

    Republicans controlled the House and Senate from 1995 to 2000.
    1996 Debt Increased by 6.71%
    1997 Debt Increased by 3.37%
    1998 Debt Increased by 2.03%
    1999 Debt Increased by 2.88%
    2000 Debt Decreased by 1.97% (a product of the "Contract with America" led by Newt Gingrich in preceding years)

    in 2001 and 2002 the House and Senate were split and the debt grew by an average of 6.37% (9/11) and to a height of a 9.25% increase by 2003 when Republicans (not particularly conservative Republicans) regained a slight majority. Then the increase decreased (politician speak) gradually each year (9.25%, 8.55%, 7.56%, 6.24%) to 6.24% in 2006. The Democrats gained control of both House and Senate in 2007 (elected end of 2006) and in 2008 the increase in debt jumped from 6.32% in 2007 to 15.93% in 2008 another 15.06% in 2009 and another 13.92% in 2010. About a 52% increase in debt in just 3 years -wow!
    The US is an odd ship. The captain yells out when he sees obtacles , but 535 individual propellers do the steering.

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    Re: Considering His standard - is Obama unpatriotic?

    All he did was spout some bull**** to get elected. Then he did something hypocritical. Wrong, sure, but it's pretty standard for politicians.
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    Re: Considering His standard - is Obama unpatriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    FLASHBACK: Obama: Adding $4 Trillion To Debt Is Unpatriotic | RealClearPolitics

    Given what He said - is He unpatriotic as well?
    Please be sure to explain your response.


    Voted No. Obama was just blathering partisan rhetoric in 2008. Neither party is immune from that particular behavior.


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    Re: Considering His standard - is Obama unpatriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by PzKfW IVe View Post
    FLASHBACK: Obama: Adding $4 Trillion To Debt Is Unpatriotic | RealClearPolitics

    Given what He said - is He unpatriotic as well?
    Please be sure to explain your response.
    Hell No! It's true the debt has increased $4 trillion since he became president. BUT much of debt is from the lost income tax revenue resulting from the jobs lost during the deep recession. Here is the month to month losses in 2008 even before he was elected:

    Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Losses
    2008 137996 137913 137841 137656 137423 137245 137014 136747 136313 135804 135002 134383
    Job losses -13 -83 -72 -185 -233 -178 -231 -267 -434 -509 -802 -619 -3626

    Source: bls.gov CES0000000001
    Last edited by pbrauer; 08-28-11 at 06:07 PM.

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    Re: Considering His standard - is Obama unpatriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    I'm confuzzed, doesn't Marxism call for the abolition of religion?
    You're confused about that? I'm confused because I thought he was a Muslim..


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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