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  • Allowing many people to have a shot at being uber-wealthy is dangerous

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  • Making the uber-wealthy share the load would be bad for the economy

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  • The middle class do not have as much of an influence on politics as the wealthy do

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  • The idea that the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax is a myth

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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    You really don't have the ability to do that.
    I just did....

    the main argument is that in the long run, a system that allows people to vote up taxes on other people is doomed to fail because the majority becomes addicted to others being forced to pay for stuff the majority wants.
    Have any proof of this?

    The majority becomes lazy and indolent and one day the bill becomes too big.
    Really?
    If the riches taxes are raised everyone becomes lazy?
    Ill ask again do you have any proof of this?
    Because back in the 40's and 50's the richest taxes were high did we see a lot of "lazy people"?

    Sort of like what we have now.
    What? The riches taxes at historic lows? Unemployment high?

    or to paraphrase a well known adage: Democracy fails once the masses learn they can vote themselves the content of the public treasury
    So its democracies fault?


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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    remind me of the state of our budget right now



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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I just did....


    Have any proof of this?


    Really?
    If the riches taxes are raised everyone becomes lazy?
    Ill ask again do you have any proof of this?
    Because back in the 40's and 50's the richest taxes were high did we see a lot of "lazy people"?


    What? The riches taxes at historic lows? Unemployment high?


    So its democracies fault?
    historic lows? your grasp of history sucks dude. what was the income tax rates and burden on the rich for more than half our history?



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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    historic lows? your grasp of history sucks dude. what was the income tax rates and burden on the rich for more than half our history?
    Here you go Turtle maybe you can figure it out on your own
    1913 1% 2% 3% 5% 6%
    1914 1% 2% 3% 5% 6%
    1916 2% 3% 5% 7% 10%
    1918 16% 21% 41% 64% 72%
    1920 12% 17% 37% 60% 68%
    1922 10% 16% 36% 56% 58%
    1924 7% 11% 27% 43% 44%
    1926 6% 10% 21% 25% 25%
    1928 6% 10% 21% 25% 25%
    1930 6% 10% 21% 25% 25%
    1932 10% 16% 36% 56% 58%
    1934 11% 19% 37% 56% 58%
    1936 11% 19% 39% 62% 68%
    1938 11% 19% 39% 62% 68%
    1940 14% 28% 51% 62% 68%
    1942 38% 55% 75% 85% 88%
    1944 41% 59% 81% 92% 94%
    1946 38% 56% 78% 89% 91%
    1948 38% 56% 78% 89% 91%
    1950 38% 56% 78% 89% 91%
    1952 42% 62% 80% 90% 92%
    1954 38% 56% 78% 89% 91%
    1956 26% 38% 62% 75% 89%
    1958 26% 38% 62% 75% 89%
    1960 26% 38% 62% 75% 89%
    1962 26% 38% 62% 75% 89%
    1964 23% 34% 56% 66% 76%
    1966 - 1976 22% 32% 53% 62% 70%
    1980 18% 24% 54% 59% 70%
    1982 16% 22% 49% 50% 50%
    1984 14% 18% 42% 45% 50%
    1986 14% 18% 38% 45% 50%
    1988 15% 15% 28% 28% 28%
    1990 15% 15% 28% 28% 28%
    1992 15% 15% 28% 28% 31%
    1994 15% 15% 28% 31% 39.6%
    1996 15% 15% 28% 31% 36%
    1998 15% 15% 28% 28% 36%
    2000 15% 15% 28% 28% 36%
    2002 10% 15% 27% 27% 35%
    2004 10% 15% 25% 25% 33%
    2006 10% 15% 15% 25% 33%
    2008 10% 15% 15% 25% 33%
    2010 10% 15% 15% 25% 33%

    And you do realize what the term "historic" means and how to keep it in context right?


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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    I figured you would ignore the first half of our country's history.



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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I figured you would ignore the first half of our country's history.
    Turtle notice how i say not at "all time low" i said "Historic". All time low for the rich would be at 1913 with 6%... Historic low, look at the words im typing: HISTORIC LOW... Not ALL TIME LOW. But HISTORIC LOW! You do realize what that means right.


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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Turtle notice how i say not at "all time low" i said "Historic". All time low for the rich would be at 1913 with 6%... Historic low, look at the words im typing: HISTORIC LOW... Not ALL TIME LOW. But HISTORIC LOW! You do realize what that means right.
    More dishonesty. Historic encompasses our history. Its not a historic low these days. that is a dishonest and patently wrong statement. Low was ZERO NADA ZILCH



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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    More dishonesty. Historic encompasses our history. Its not a historic low these days. that is a dishonest and patently wrong statement. Low was ZERO NADA ZILCH
    Oh. My. God. Can you not compromise basic facts through your cranium that go against your views and outrageous claims that your taxes are "too damn high" and everyone else is a "free loader"?


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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Oh. My. God. Can you not compromise basic facts through your cranium that go against your views and outrageous claims that your taxes are "too damn high" and everyone else is a "free loader"?
    you post something that was blatantly wrong, I correct your dishonest comment and you throw out this sort of nonsense. My taxes are too damn high. I don't get anything extra for paying many times more taxes than the average citizen. I was not GIVEN anything additional by the government yet people like you demand I pay more.



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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you post something that was blatantly wrong, I correct your dishonest comment and you throw out this sort of nonsense.
    All time low of Income tax: 6%
    All time high of income tax: 94%

    Do you know what historic means Turtle? Answer this... Do you know what historic means? It does not mean all time low. Or all time high. Historic means of, pertaining to, treating, or characteristic of history or past events.

    My taxes are too damn high.
    Of course they are everyone thinks that....

    I don't get anything extra for paying many times more taxes than the average citizen.
    Well if you own a business or what not you do...... But yes you do. Welcome to life TD.

    I was not GIVEN anything additional by the government yet people like you demand I pay more.
    Yea you should if you make a lot Turtle its common ****ing sense.


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