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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So it is your contention that Affirmative action is a program designed to make African Americans and others superior to Whites and to empower institutions to protect and further that sense of superiority?

    We get that you are against affirmative actions programs. Understood. But how does that make the programs racist and their advocates racists?
    Haymarket, Affirmative Action has been overused and abused. Its original intent has long been met. I dont want to relate specifics but I know personally of incidents of racism being the motivation with affirmate action events. Its time for affirmative action to end...its now enhancing racial tensions...and frankly I dont believe its needed any more...the playing field is leveled...its not so much racism against one race now...theres wholesale bias towards the middleclass and poor and that includes all races and ethnicities

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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    If anything, it's tilted the tables too much. It shook my beloved alma mater. Apparently the minorities with lower scores applying to the University of Michigan's law school got a little pissed that all these white boys with 4.0s were taking the spots.

    I remember back in one of the New England states, a test given to help base promotions was given to fireman, but was discredited when it was found that 19 of the top 20 scores were from white people.

    We've fallen long astray from the original purpose of AA. You're right there.

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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    At least they paid it to begin with.
    No they paid $58,000 less than their share without the temporary tax break.

    Half of the people you see walking down the street don't need a 58K tax break because they don't owe a cent of it.
    No one is suggesting a $58,000 tax break for everyone.

    Taking something from someone just because they have it is theft. Doing it under the guise of government does not make it moral.
    Taxes are the rule of law in this country. Have been for a century and a half. If you are looking for low taxes and no regulation, see Somalia.

    You may as well run down Wall Street and hold the suits up at gunpoint. You're just using a bigger weapon than a gun when you stand behind Washington.
    You don't know much about the rule of law in this country, do you?
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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    ...and how they, Democrats, who composed the major majority of southern politicians at the time, actively worked against everything Dr. King fought for.
    Ok what is your point.... The republicans were once liberal back when Abe Lincoln was president... The Dems and Republicans have switched on many issues over the time.

    I find it truly ironic that Blacks flock to the Democrat party today...a sort of cultural Stockholm Syndrome,
    Uhhh mainly because of several issues... And mainly because we dont live back in the 1950's anymore......

    where the liberal left have perfected a sophisticated form of slavery.
    The liberal left is "enslaving" us now...? Huh? Any examples of this?

    The Left has simply traded the whip for the entitlement, and in so doing retain more control over Blacks and destroy more Black families then ever before.
    Ohhhh im scared now with all these talking points..... Really scared...
    Before you speak nonsense on how we are becoming "slaves" to the "liberal left", please give us examples....


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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No they paid $58,000 less than their share without the temporary tax break.



    No one is suggesting a $58,000 tax break for everyone.



    Taxes are the rule of law in this country. Have been for a century and a half. If you are looking for low taxes and no regulation, see Somalia.



    You don't know much about the rule of law in this country, do you?
    why do the welfare socialist tax the rich more crowd constantly bring up somalia? we who oppose more entitlement addictions and more using the money of the productive to buy the votes of dem minions support government and its proper functions



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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Ok what is your point.... The republicans were once liberal back when Abe Lincoln was president... The Dems and Republicans have switched on many issues over the time.


    Uhhh mainly because of several issues... And mainly because we dont live back in the 1950's anymore......


    The liberal left is "enslaving" us now...? Huh? Any examples of this?


    Ohhhh im scared now with all these talking points..... Really scared...
    Before you speak nonsense on how we are becoming "slaves" to the "liberal left", please give us examples....
    Where can I find these talking points online?

    If you could link to where you're reading them, to then compare my statements to them and conclude I'm speaking talking points, I would sincerely appreciate it.
    Last edited by Jerry; 08-31-11 at 06:44 PM.

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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Where can I find these talking points online?

    If you could link to where you're reading them, to then compare my statements to them and conclude I'm speaking talking points, I would sincerely appreciate it.
    Ok.......

    Glenn Beck: Slavery was a liberal cause - latimes.com
    Ron Paul compares Social Security and Medicare to slavery*|*Raw Replay
    Modern Day Slavery, Liberal Racism
    Rand Paul Equates Universal Health Care And Slavery*|*Vision to America
    Rand Paul’s Ridiculous Slavery Analogy
    https://www.amconmag.com/blog/2011/0...s-for-slavery/


    P.S.
    Still waiting on these "left wing slavery" examples on how the left wing wants to enslave us all!!!
    I know you caught us, its our plan to make you our slaves.....


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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Oh I thought you had like a single page with the talking points presenting in like a bullet-point format or something.

    Yeah I don't listen to Beck or any of the Pauls, and I don't plan on starting. Strange that you frequent all those sites, though. Oh well, thanks for giving their websites your traffic, I guess. If you come across a bullet-point page of the talking points please let me know. I would live to keep up on it.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    P.S.
    Still waiting on these "left wing slavery" examples on how the left wing wants to enslave us all!!!
    I know you caught us, its our plan to make you our slaves.....
    Well I already gave specific examples, so if you're waiting then that's on you, but I'm not waiting for you to wait for me to re-post anything. Have a nice day

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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why do the welfare socialist tax the rich more crowd constantly bring up somalia?
    I don't know any welfare socialists, but my guess would be because it is the closest country to the libertarian utopia that currently exists on the planet.
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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I don't know any welfare socialists, but my guess would be because it is the closest country to the libertarian utopia that currently exists on the planet.
    if you believe in income redistribution of a moderate to large scale you are a welfare socialist



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