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  • Allowing many people to have a shot at being uber-wealthy is dangerous

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  • The middle class do not have as much of an influence on politics as the wealthy do

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  • The idea that the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax is a myth

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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you do know that Lawyers are among the biggest donors to the party you worship.

    and everyone who has been around this forum for more than you have know that I am an avid supporter of both tort reform and making plaintiffs who lose lawsuits pay the costs and fees of the prevailing defendant
    The only thing I know is what most of america knows...Lawyers have categorically destroyed our country

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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    "DRAMA" - as you misuse it - obviously anyone here who disagrees with your far right positions and gets in your face about it.

    There is no sense in replying to your same nonsense over and over and over again when I correct you and you still type out the same malarkey.

    I favor a tax increase for ALL Americans who earn an income. Which words in that sentence do you not comprehend?
    and you have constantly called for the rich to pay far far more and carry an even higher burden of the income tax

    why not support everyone paying a flat tax Haymarket? that means the rich pay far more but everyone keeps the same amount of the next dollar they earn?



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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Haymarket, you cannot reason or explain to blind partisans with one special interest in the forefront of thier minds...they dont want to pay for anything. They want everything for free including Police and Fire Protection the roads they drive on, the electric they use any infrastructure or any services...after all they are the RICH they are the privledged and everyone else is a nothing.
    This is the same feudal mindset that failed hundreds of years ago and caused the creation of america.
    Talking to people like that is a waste of energy, they will respond with the same redundant excuses and/or whine incessantly.

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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    The only thing I know is what most of america knows...Lawyers have categorically destroyed our country
    your silly efforts to attack me because I am an attorney with idiotic and unsupported claims about all attorneys is really amusing. I have always said there are too many attorneys-especially those who support more government and more income redistribution. ie the ones that make up the core of your party. NOT MINE. Three of Our last Four candidates for President were NOT Lawyers. Every candidate you have had since Carter was other than law school flunk out Al Gore. Mondale, Dukakis, Clinton, Kerry and Obama-all attorneys.



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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Haymarket, you cannot reason or explain to blind partisans with one special interest in the forefront of thier minds...they dont want to pay for anything. They want everything for free including Police and Fire Protection the roads they drive on, the electric they use any infrastructure or any services...after all they are the RICH they are the privledged and everyone else is a nothing.
    This is the same feudal mindset that failed hundreds of years ago and caused the creation of america.
    Talking to people like that is a waste of energy, they will respond with the same redundant excuses and/or whine incessantly.
    find a post of mine-or any other conservative that supports this drivel



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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    find a post of mine-or any other conservative that supports this drivel
    There are thousands of your posts whining incessantly about your plight and how your being robbed....like I said lawyers should absolutely not be allowed to vote just like convicts they are one and the same

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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    There are thousands of your posts whining incessantly about your plight and how your being robbed....like I said lawyers should absolutely not be allowed to vote just like convicts they are one and the same
    Your silly nonsense about attorneys is backfiring and only makes you look hysterical. Find where ANY conservative on this board has said they should pay NO taxes. and if you want to attack professions, we can talk about all the civil rights violations second rate police department employees have perpetrated



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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and you have constantly called for the rich to pay far far more and carry an even higher burden of the income tax

    why not support everyone paying a flat tax Haymarket? that means the rich pay far more but everyone keeps the same amount of the next dollar they earn?
    We have been through this time and time again, in thread after thread, no matter what the actual topic.

    A flat tax is the rich mans wet dream since it will give them a tax cut. And that is your only priority Turtle. Lets look at your various tax positions over the past few weeks:

    1 - You insist that taxation should be based upon how much government services one utilizes and everyone should be taxed based on what they use like a retail shopping experience at Costco. You say this over and over and over again, you say this in thread after thread after thread. You cling to this the way a drowning man in the ocean clings to a piece of driftwood and refuse to give it up claiming that this is your sacred principle and is what is right and ethical.

    2- You suddenly trash that position in favor of a 180 degree turn to the exact opposite - suddenly you favor a per capita tax where everyone pays the same regardless of what government services they consume or use. Your sacred principle went out the window, was smashed and trashed, was flushed down the porcelain receptacle in favor of the directly opposite approach. What happened to your sacred principle that you espoused for a very long time?

    3 - Then you trash and bury the per capita idea in favor of a consumption tax which has nothing at all to do with government services that were the lynchpin in ideas #1 and #2.

    And even though all three ideas are polar opposites of each other in principle, they all have one thing in common: they give Turtle a tax cut since they benefit the wealthy.

    If you see as a PRINCIPLE the idea that what is good for Turtle is the final standard - then that seems to be what passes for principle in your eyes.

    You have made it clear with your 180 pivots and reversals that you have no political principles - you have only your selfish interests at heart.
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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    find a post of mine-or any other conservative that supports this drivel
    That very recent one about the flat tax nonsense for a quick and easy one.
    Turtle, are you really a "lawyer" ?
    I was thinking you were a college student or a smart high schooler...seriously...

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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    That very recent one about the flat tax nonsense for a quick and easy one.
    Turtle, are you really a "lawyer" ?
    I was thinking you were a college student or a smart high schooler...seriously...
    what is the point of such a stupid comment?



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