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  • The middle class do not have as much of an influence on politics as the wealthy do

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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    And your point is ... ?
    Comprehend the written word. I means and say that the middle classdoes not pay the majority of taxes.

    I want to see a low flat tax for all and a flat sales tax added that will hit those who can and do more buying will pay more.

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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Hilarious! His statement is somehow authoritarian to you?
    you find something like this amusing????

    pain tends to be the best education for the ignorant.
    That statement from Turtle conjures up images of torture and sadism at the hands of authority figures attempting to 'educate' those who do not see things the way they want you to see them. Jackbooted thugs with the authority and power behind them to put a physical hurting on folks to 'educate' them.

    Yup - that reeks of fascistic tendencies.
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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    you find something like this amusing????



    That statement from Turtle conjures up images of torture and sadism at the hands of authority figures attempting to 'educate' those who do not see things the way they want you to see them. Jackbooted thugs with the authority and power behind them to put a physical hurting on folks to 'educate' them.

    Yup - that reeks of fascistic tendencies.
    what misrepresentation. the point I was making is that the only way to get the people who vote for more and more and more government spending is to make them feel some pain in their pocketbook

    that you choose to distort that obvious point is sad



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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Hilarious! His statement is somehow authoritarian to you?
    Its a psychobabbling misinterpretation. Pain obviously refers to making those who vote for big spenders actually suffer some tax increases



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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    you find something like this amusing????



    That statement from Turtle conjures up images of torture and sadism at the hands of authority figures attempting to 'educate' those who do not see things the way they want you to see them. Jackbooted thugs with the authority and power behind them to put a physical hurting on folks to 'educate' them.

    Yup - that reeks of fascistic tendencies.
    Pain naturally makes people think of the errors of their ways. So making people feel the pain of their actions is a great tool to teach people. It doesn't imply that you will torture them, rule over them with a iron fist, it means they will learn from their actions by feeling the pain of those actions.

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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Pain naturally makes people think of the errors of their ways. So making people feel the pain of their actions is a great tool to teach people. It doesn't imply that you will torture them, rule over them with a iron fist, it means they will learn from their actions by feeling the pain of those actions.
    the current system that makes failure easy and supports sloth has failed to educate far too many



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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what misrepresentation. the point I was making is that the only way to get the people who vote for more and more and more government spending is to make them feel some pain in their pocketbook

    that you choose to distort that obvious point is sad


    Not at all. What is sad is that you have been waging this war on a citizens Constitutional right to vote for sometime now and now you resort to euphemisms about administering pain to the ignorant. That is snug and elitist and smacks of fascistic tendencies.

    Turtle - go back and read your stuff. people who disagree with you..... people who vote differently that you .... people who do not see things the way that you do are not simply wrong - they are IGNORANT. How dare you! People have a right to hold their political and social beliefs without the likes of you judging them from you perch on high and labeling them as IGNORANT.

    And now you compound it with a prescription to administer pain to them to teach them the ways of Turtle and the radical right. Amazing.
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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Pain naturally makes people think of the errors of their ways. So making people feel the pain of their actions is a great tool to teach people. It doesn't imply that you will torture them, rule over them with a iron fist, it means they will learn from their actions by feeling the pain of those actions.
    These type of expressions are ugly to read and frightening to realize what a deep hold they have on members of the radical right wing out to destroy America.
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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Not at all. What is sad is that you have been waging this war on a citizens Constitutional right to vote for sometime now and now you resort to euphemisms about administering pain to the ignorant. That is snug and elitist and smacks of fascistic tendencies.

    Turtle - go back and read your stuff. people who disagree with you..... people who vote differently that you .... people who do not see things the way that you do are not simply wrong - they are IGNORANT. How dare you! People have a right to hold their political and social beliefs without the likes of you judging them from you perch on high and labeling them as IGNORANT.

    And now you compound it with a prescription to administer pain to them to teach them the ways of Turtle and the radical right. Amazing.
    You have long been a proponent of the marxist concept that the wealth of the rich is completely and absolutely subordinate to the wishes of the masses. You think it is perfectly acceptable for the masses to vote away the wealth of others so the masses can have all the government services they want without paying for those services.

    that system-which is about what we have now-where 47% of the country pay no income taxes-has encouraged far too many people to reflexively demand more and more big government because they don't face any tax increases to pay more and more government.

    Of course if people had to actually pay more taxes everytime the government spent more, the politicians who buy votes by promising more spending and claim only the RICH will have to pay more would have far more difficult a time winning elections. In other words, your dem masters would take a beating if EVERYONE had to PAY MORE to fund their welfare socialist schemes.

    No wonder you are so agitated



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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    These type of expressions are ugly to read and frightening to realize what a deep hold they have on members of the radical right wing out to destroy America.
    Hysterical hyperbolic drama

    why shouldn't everyone pay more taxes when government spends more? why should it only be the rich who are tasked with paying for all the goodies your dem masters use to buy the votes of the many?



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