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  • Allowing many people to have a shot at being uber-wealthy is dangerous

    1 1.19%
  • Making the uber-wealthy share the load would be bad for the economy

    0 0%
  • The middle class do not have as much of an influence on politics as the wealthy do

    30 35.71%
  • The idea that the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax is a myth

    54 64.29%
  • A few wealthy, a few more middle class and many lower class citizens is best

    3 3.57%
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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so you are saying that 90X people use less of the government services paid for by the FIT than that top one percent.

    OKIE DOKIE
    Sill nothing to back up your previous claim that the rich benefit less than the working class, I see.

    And now you are making a new claim that 90% of the country are working class??? 14.9% of the country are poor, 17% are seniors (no longer working), and 10% are the wealthy. That leaves 42.9% as the working class.
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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    Oh .. that's right, you already told me .. you pay 24% ... so you do dodge taxes via unnecessary tax loopholes .. says a lot if you ask me
    how so? my group pays the highest effective rates. I doubt you understand the tax code enough to even evaluate what is a loophole. a mortgage deduction is not a loophole. A business expense is not a loophole. Lower rates on dividends (in reality the dividend is often taxed twice) or capital gains are not loopholes.



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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Sill nothing to back up your previous claim that the rich benefit less than the working class, I see.

    And now you are making a new claim that 90% of the country are working class??? 14.9% of the country are poor, 17% are seniors (no longer working), and 10% are the wealthy. That leaves 42.9% as the working class.
    If you are going to lie at least try to be a bit more subtle. I never said that 90% are working class.

    10% are now wealthy? I thought you all claimed it was the top 2% who are "rich" or are treated as such via the tax code



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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    Very interesting .. says a lot about how little those that responded understand the system .. sounds about right though .. it's similar to grades in school .. like a bell curve .. the majority are in the average grade range and there are a few outliers .. in this poll example it looks like both the mid grade and lower grade levels pooled to make the majority (73%) and the higher grade levels made the 27% minority
    I guess you missed the fact that the poll was stupid but for sure the middle class do not pay crippling amounts of income tax.



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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I guess you missed the fact that the poll was stupid but for sure the middle class do not pay crippling amounts of income tax.
    A middle class person paying 12 % on 80,000 has more a burden than you...apples to apples...you pay more because you steal and connive more

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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    If you are going to lie at least try to be a bit more subtle. I never said that 90% are working class.

    10% are now wealthy? I thought you all claimed it was the top 2% who are "rich" or are treated as such via the tax code
    The 10%/90% crap is what you kept referring to when pressed to back up your claim that the rich benefit less from government than the working class, so I could only assume that you think 90% of the population is working class and 10% is rich.

    So when are going to back up your claim that the rich benefit less from government than the working class?
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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    A middle class person paying 12 % on 80,000 has more a burden than you...apples to apples...you pay more because you steal and connive more
    wrong again


    you define burden from each according to their ability rather than value given or value receive

    your silly and idiotic view of how people get rich is probably why you are not



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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The 10%/90% crap is what you kept referring to when pressed to back up your claim that the rich benefit less from government than the working class, so I could only assume that you think 90% of the population is working class and 10% is rich.

    So when are going to back up your claim that the rich benefit less from government than the working class?
    that is an interesting excuse for blatantly misrepresenting what I said

    so you are saying that 90 percent of the population get less benefits from the government than that one percent?

    go ahead and run with that



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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that is an interesting excuse for blatantly misrepresenting what I said

    so you are saying that 90 percent of the population get less benefits from the government than that one percent?

    go ahead and run with that
    No, I am saying that 90% of the population has nothing to do with your claim that rich benefit less from government than the working class?
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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No, I am saying that 90% of the population has nothing to do with your claim that rich benefit less from government than the working class?
    I suspect most of those in the top one percent actually work far more than most of those in the bottom rungs



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