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  • Allowing many people to have a shot at being uber-wealthy is dangerous

    1 1.19%
  • Making the uber-wealthy share the load would be bad for the economy

    0 0%
  • The middle class do not have as much of an influence on politics as the wealthy do

    30 35.71%
  • The idea that the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax is a myth

    54 64.29%
  • A few wealthy, a few more middle class and many lower class citizens is best

    3 3.57%
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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    hardly exists-I call compete and under bullpoop on that crap.

    crippling tax rates? what are you including? Its sure not the income tax rates.

    what loopholes do most of us rich get? stop the lies. the people making between 350K to 5 million pay the highest rate of effective taxes.
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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    simple question

    which group-each paying about the same amount of federal income tax dollars-uses more of the services paid for by that tax

    the top one percent or the bottom 90%
    You didn't answer the question .. it was simple .. there were only two choices

    Here it is again:

    What do you think is more important?

    1.) Absolute freedom for the individual
    2.) The good of the commonwealth

    So what is it .. #1 or #2?

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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    hardly exists-I call compete and under bullpoop on that crap.

    crippling tax rates? what are you including? Its sure not the income tax rates.

    what loopholes do most of us rich get? stop the lies. the people making between 350K to 5 million pay the highest rate of effective taxes.
    If you don't know how to take advantage of the tax loopholes .. that's sad .. or if you purposely don't use them .. I applaud you

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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    You didn't answer the question .. it was simple .. there were only two choices

    Here it is again:

    What do you think is more important?

    1.) Absolute freedom for the individual
    2.) The good of the commonwealth

    So what is it .. #1 or #2?
    uh they are not always exclusive

    try again

    and I doubt you can define the good of the commonwealth
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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    If you don't know how to take advantage of the tax loopholes .. that's sad .. or if you purposely don't use them .. I applaud you
    its funny-people without the wherewithall to be wealthy lecturing those of us who are.

    why don't you tell me what loopholes we use to avoid paying 39% of the income tax

    oh we already do and yet we still pay far more of the income tax than our share of the income
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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Interesting poll results so far
    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Yeah; a shotgun IS a rifle; it uses a different load.

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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh they are not always exclusive

    try again

    and I doubt you can define the good of the commonwealth
    Way to dodge the question here I'll add a third option:

    What do you think is more important?

    1.) Absolute freedom for the individual
    2.) The good of the commonwealth
    3.) Both are equally important

    So what is it .. #1 , #2 or #3?

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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    its funny-people without the wherewithall to be wealthy lecturing those of us who are.

    why don't you tell me what loopholes we use to avoid paying 39% of the income tax

    oh we already do and yet we still pay far more of the income tax than our share of the income
    Oh .. that's right, you already told me .. you pay 24% ... so you do dodge taxes via unnecessary tax loopholes .. says a lot if you ask me

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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    Way to dodge the question here I'll add a third option:

    What do you think is more important?

    1.) Absolute freedom for the individual
    2.) The good of the commonwealth
    3.) Both are equally important

    So what is it .. #1 , #2 or #3?
    what is the good of the commonwealth?

    I am not an anarchist and deny anarchy leads to more freedom for the individual. as a libertarian I support those necessary functions of government that actually promote freedom. However, I rejected the socialist faux libertarian position that those unable (or more often unwilling) to feed themselves cannot be free unless others are coerced into feeding them.
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    Re: Why does the middle class pay the most crippling amount of income tax?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Interesting poll results so far
    Very interesting .. says a lot about how little those that responded understand the system .. sounds about right though .. it's similar to grades in school .. like a bell curve .. the majority are in the average grade range and there are a few outliers .. in this poll example it looks like both the mid grade and lower grade levels pooled to make the majority (73%) and the higher grade levels made the 27% minority

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