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    Do You Agree With [Obama's] New Approach to Deportations?

    Do You Agree With [Obama's] New Approach to Deportations?
    • Yes, focus on deporting dangerous criminals first.
    • No, this is the WH bypassing Congress to implement 'backdoor amnesty.'
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    Here is a link to Fox News report on the change in policy.


    "Special Report" On Backdoor Amnesty For Illegal Immigration? | RealClearPolitics


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    Re: Do You Agree With [Obama's] New Approach to Deportations?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Do You Agree With [Obama's] New Approach to Deportations?
    • Yes, focus on deporting dangerous criminals first.
    • No, this is the WH bypassing Congress to implement 'backdoor amnesty.'
    • Other

    Here is a link to Fox News report on the change in policy.


    "Special Report" On Backdoor Amnesty For Illegal Immigration? | RealClearPolitics
    Not only no but HELL NO! this is the white house bypassing congress to enact amnesty. He should be thrown out of office for it. The one thing a president should never do is basically encourage a unarmed invasion of the country he is running.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Do You Agree With [Obama's] New Approach to Deportations?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Do You Agree With [Obama's] New Approach to Deportations?
    • Yes, focus on deporting dangerous criminals first.
    • No, this is the WH bypassing Congress to implement 'backdoor amnesty.'
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    Here is a link to Fox News report on the change in policy.


    "Special Report" On Backdoor Amnesty For Illegal Immigration? | RealClearPolitics
    Yes it makes sense to optimize if one has resource constraints.

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    Re: Do You Agree With [Obama's] New Approach to Deportations?

    This is Obama showing that he thinks he can circumvent the law and the Constitution and dictate what he wants. I think he needs to be impeached or at least threatened with it, to put his Anti-American Ass in its place.

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    Re: Do You Agree With [Obama's] New Approach to Deportations?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Yes it makes sense to optimize if one has resource constraints.
    We give money away to foreign countries, we give money away for stupid grants, we have hundreds of overlapping government agencies and many other stupid unnecessary government programs. We do not have a resource problem or resource constraint.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Do You Agree With [Obama's] New Approach to Deportations?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Not only no but HELL NO! this is the white house bypassing congress to enact amnesty. He should be thrown out of office for it. The one thing a president should never do is basically encourage a unarmed invasion of the country he is running.
    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    This is Obama showing that he thinks he can circumvent the law and the Constitution and dictate what he wants. I think he needs to be impeached or at least threatened with it, to put his Anti-American Ass in its place.
    Bypassing Congress, Impeached? Are you guys serious?? I Suppose I can understand that Fox fooled you with their spin on this. But seriously, how is this in anyway shape or form bypassing Congress or an impeachable offense.


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    Re: Do You Agree With [Obama's] New Approach to Deportations?

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    This is Obama showing that he thinks he can circumvent the law and the Constitution and dictate what he wants. I think he needs to be impeached or at least threatened with it, to put his Anti-American Ass in its place.
    He is looking for votes. The one term Marxist president Obama wants to change the demographic by flooding the nation with poor, illiterates from south of our border. He is dangerous. I think the right answer is to defund the white house. When he stops his dictatorship Congress can turn his phones and power back on.

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    Re: Do You Agree With [Obama's] New Approach to Deportations?

    No. He's implementing a policy that back-burners going after employers who employ illegals and deporting illegals caught at the border unless they have a criminal record. This is amnesty, and I'm against it. There's a reason that every country in the world regulates immigration. Economically and societally, nations can absorb only a certain number of immigrants each year. Too many will overwhelm resources. That's what is happening to us. We take in 1 million a year legally, but 1-2 million flood in illegally each year. Hospitals are overwhelmed, and literally dozens have closed their doors in California alone, due strictly to the enormous cost of attending to pregnant illegals. Schools are overwhelmed by the rapid influx of students requiring bi-lingual education.

    All of society's services are strained when trying to absorb more people than can comfortably be assisted. That's why countries set immigration standards. And that's why we should be enforcing ours.

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    Re: Do You Agree With [Obama's] New Approach to Deportations?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    No. He's implementing a policy that back-burners going after employers who employ illegals and deporting illegals caught at the border unless they have a criminal record. This is amnesty, and I'm against it. There's a reason that every country in the world regulates immigration. Economically and societally, nations can absorb only a certain number of immigrants each year. Too many will overwhelm resources. That's what is happening to us. We take in 1 million a year legally, but 1-2 million flood in illegally each year. Hospitals are overwhelmed, and literally dozens have closed their doors in California alone, due strictly to the enormous cost of attending to pregnant illegals. Schools are overwhelmed by the rapid influx of students requiring bi-lingual education.

    All of society's services are strained when trying to absorb more people than can comfortably be assisted. That's why countries set immigration standards. And that's why we should be enforcing ours.
    Sorry, but you've got it wrong, the new policy is to deport the most dangerous cases first. That's not amnesty, it's smart thinking especially if there are limited resources.


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    Re: Do You Agree With [Obama's] New Approach to Deportations?

    There's essentially "back-door amnesty" by default. The federal bureaucracy (DHS, DOJ, ICE) has nowhere near enough resources to prosecute every ****ing deportation case involving an illegal, by default. You can look at it as a de facto passage of the Dream Act (as some folks have called it), sure. You could also look at it as a prioritization of resources and efforts.

    Doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

    Some more links, if anyone cares to find out more

    Original ICE Memo by director John Morton:

    http://www.ice.gov/doclib/secure-com...etion-memo.pdf

    Napolitano's letter to 22 senators, including Sen. Dick Durbin (chief proponent of the dream act) on Thursday, about the new guideline changes:

    http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/11-8...e_08.18.11.pdf

    Rep. Lamar Smith's (R-Texas) response:

    http://judiciary.house.gov/news/08182011.html
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