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    Re: Do You Agree With [Obama's] New Approach to Deportations?

    The policy is not about detention but order of priority in deportation. I agree with deporting detained individuals who are the most dangerous FIRST. Get them out of here, out of our system, out of our country, and out of our sight.

    The immigration department is dealing with so many illegals right now that it makes sense to have a priority system.

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    Re: Do You Agree With [Obama's] New Approach to Deportations?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
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    expand your resources. There are States wanting to use their LE to asssist. Quit wasting money taking States like Az to court over laws which would allow them to more effectively assist the feds.
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    Re: Do You Agree With [Obama's] New Approach to Deportations?

    Fox is being dishonest as usual. The change doesn't change the number of people deported at all. Immigration courts have been over capacity for years. There is currently an 18 month backlog. That means that if ICE detained nobody at all for 18 months then started up again, it would not cause any change at all in the number of people deported per year. What it does do is instruct ICE to focus on the highest priority cases. Since we can only deport so many people per year, it seems obvious to me that it makes sense to pick the ones that are causing the most trouble.

    In fact, it may actually lead to an increase in the number of deportations. A higher priority undocumented immigrant will most likely be able to be deported after a much quicker trial. If you commit a felony, for example, it doesn't even matter if you have a valid visa, you're out. So, by focusing on felons the trials don't need to waste time on the visa issues, which is usually a big complicated part of the trial. ICE credits the focus on higher priority targets as the main reason that deportations were higher in 2010 than they've ever been in US history. So, if anything, it appears that it means more deportations to prioritize.

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    Re: Do You Agree With [Obama's] New Approach to Deportations?

    Obama's basically taking the approach of "I'm not going to stop it, I'm not even gonna try to remedy the overall situation, but I'll try and minimise the worst parts of it", which makes sense, it's pragmatic, but I disagree with it.
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    Re: Do You Agree With [Obama's] New Approach to Deportations?

    Deportations, prisons, nothing will matter till we for the most part seal the border...they couldve slowed illegal immigration down to a trickle along time ago...

    democrats want votes and republicans want cheap labor so the pigs at the trough can keep all labor pay in the toilet

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    Re: Do You Agree With [Obama's] New Approach to Deportations?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Deportations, prisons, nothing will matter till we for the most part seal the border...they couldve slowed illegal immigration down to a trickle along time ago...

    democrats want votes and republicans want cheap labor so the pigs at the trough can keep all labor pay in the toilet
    We currently spend $40 billion/year on immigration enforcement. How much would you like to see it increased to?

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    Re: Do You Agree With [Obama's] New Approach to Deportations?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    We currently spend $40 billion/year on immigration enforcement. How much would you like to see it increased to?

    Whatever it takes...and if they got for real about it...the cost would be less, instead of creating eyecandy divisions and creating that all of which DO NOTHING...they are pissing it away....you cant deport enough to make a differnence if you have more than you deport running over the border....we have to seal the border but we never will

    bush wanted amnesty...obama wants amnesty...REAGAN gave them amnesty

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    Re: Do You Agree With [Obama's] New Approach to Deportations?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Whatever it takes...and if they got for real about it...the cost would be less, instead of creating eyecandy divisions and creating that all of which DO NOTHING...they are pissing it away....you cant deport enough to make a differnence if you have more than you deport running over the border....we have to seal the border but we never will

    bush wanted amnesty...obama wants amnesty...REAGAN gave them amnesty
    Whatever it takes? You mean whatever it takes to reduce illegal immigration to zero? Because that would certainly be more than our entire GDP. Do you mean spend enough so that the number of undocumented immigrants in the country goes down each year? Because we're already there- the number has been dropping for three years now. What exactly do you mean? Specifics, not slogans.

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    Re: Do You Agree With [Obama's] New Approach to Deportations?

    I think the focus is completely off. Don't go after the illegals, but go after the employers who hire them and go after the hand-outs US gives them.

    This will reduce the incentive to stay in the US, and the number of illegals in the US will be reduced.

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    Re: Do You Agree With [Obama's] New Approach to Deportations?

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    We currently spend $40 billion/year on immigration enforcement. How much would you like to see it increased to?
    I'd like to see the budget for deportations raised to the $40 billion figure that you just pulled out of your ass.

    The ENTIRE department of U.S. Customs and Border Protection is budgeted at $11.84 Billion (2012)
    The ENTIRE department of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement is budgeted at $5.82 Billion (2012)

    Where did you get that $40 billion figure from, one of those pro-illegal alien websites that you reference in other posts dealing with these issues?

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