OK Oscar, let's review. theplaydrive, you and I were discussing evolution and whether it was "proven". tpd was saying that evolution had not been "proven" while I was saying that it was. As a result of that discussion, it became apparent that theplaydrive was using the term "proven" to mean "absolutely proven" while I was not. When the playdrive stated this, I agreed that when using proven to mean "absolutely proven" that he was right and to show that I then understood that our disagreement was the result of our using different definitions of the same term and I even "liked" his post to acknowledge that.
Since science does not absolutely prove anything, I began using the phrase "scientifically proven" to distinguish what I was saying from the "absolutely proven" that tpd was referring to. "Scientifically proven" is a commonly used figure of speech used by laypeople to describe concepts that have been tested using the scientific method, found to be useful to accurately make predictions, and reviewed by other scientists with similar results and so have become generally accepted by scientists to be true. In other words, "scientifically proven" is a phrase used to describe the result of a process by which hypotheses become theories and when I said that "evolution has been scientifically proven" I was merely stating a truism.
Since you have already asked me for definitions of other terms which you could have easily looked up yourself, I got the impression that you were merely engaging in a form of rhetorical game similar to a child who asks a question and then responds to any answer you give with "why is that?" and when you answer that, the child again asks "why is that?". The point of that game is not to actually learn, but to "win" by frustrating the responder with disingenuity.
Words can have several meanings, and often the intended meaning of words spoken need to be taken in context in order to be understood. In a discussion, all parties nees to make a minimum effort to understand what is being communicated, and show a minimal ability to understand context. Your repeated demands for definitions of words and phrases that you could have looked up yourself has demonstrated to me that you are not willing to do the minimal effort needed to communicate. Instead of trying to understand, you're trying to "win" by somehow proving that a simple figure of speech (ie "scientifically proven") is "wrong"
For my next act, I will describe how "the circular file" is not really a place to file documents for later retrieval, and why no matter how much time you "save", you will not be able to withdraw it for use at some later date when you don't have enough time to complete a task. Then, you can provide me with a detailed definition for the phrase "generally accepted" means
Are you coming to bed?
I can't. This is important.
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Last edited by scourge99; 08-23-11 at 12:34 PM.
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