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    Re: Judges rule for teacher who called creationism "superstitious nonsense"

    Quote Originally Posted by Just1Voice View Post
    Why do people keep trying to make this claim? You must realize that limiting teachers this way lowers their credibility and it makes them more vulnerable to accusations of teaching propaganda. Teachers should be encouraged to speak truth.
    It is actually opinion since it is neither provable nor disprovable.
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    Re: Judges rule for teacher who called creationism "superstitious nonsense"

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    In science, something does not become a "theory" until it has been scientifically proven.
    This is not true. Not even remotely.
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    Re: Judges rule for teacher who called creationism "superstitious nonsense"

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    No in a science class. There is a disclaimer in all the books saying something like "this book teaches the theory of evolution" and the teacher can't comment on one without commenting on the other.

    when did this happen? I taught in the huntsville city system from 95-04 and I never saw that. In fact, Darwin's "origin of the species" was required reading. had to read it and sign a statement verifying that we had read it.
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    Re: Judges rule for teacher who called creationism "superstitious nonsense"

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    No in a science class. There is a disclaimer in all the books saying something like "this book teaches the theory of evolution" and the teacher can't comment on one without commenting on the other.
    That is absolutely inappropriate since in the setting of a science class, there is no competing theory, no other side to the coin. There is evolution, period. Religion does not belong in a science class.
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    Re: Judges rule for teacher who called creationism "superstitious nonsense"

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    when did this happen? I taught in the huntsville city system from 95-04 and I never saw that. In fact, Darwin's "origin of the species" was required reading. had to read it and sign a statement verifying that we had read it.
    It may have just been my school system. I went to West Point in Cullman.
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    Re: Judges rule for teacher who called creationism "superstitious nonsense"

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is absolutely inappropriate since in the setting of a science class, there is no competing theory, no other side to the coin. There is evolution, period. Religion does not belong in a science class.
    So is stating that creationism is superstitious nonsense. The best way to avoid this is to just avoid it all in general.
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    Re: Judges rule for teacher who called creationism "superstitious nonsense"

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    So is stating that creationism is superstitious nonsense. The best way to avoid this is to just avoid it all in general.
    Yes, I agree with this.
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    Re: Judges rule for teacher who called creationism "superstitious nonsense"

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is absolutely inappropriate since in the setting of a science class, there is no competing theory, no other side to the coin. There is evolution, period. Religion does not belong in a science class.
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    So is stating that creationism is superstitious nonsense. The best way to avoid this is to just avoid it all in general.
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    Yes, I agree with this.
    How do you propose to do that? Kids are going to be curious. They are going to ask questions about it. If you ignore the questions or refer them to their own religious leaders, then you are discouraging your students from asking relevant questions for themselves. That runs counter to a teachers mission as an educator. We should be teaching students to think critically and avoiding this topic will be discouraging in that regard.

    What we need is a way to address this topic without passing judgement on the overall belief system. We can easily show historical instances where parts of the church's worldview has been proven wrong and also instances where scientific theory has had to be modified in response to new data. I would think that an educator would want to engage this discussion and use it as a platform for teaching critical thinking skills.

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    Re: Judges rule for teacher who called creationism "superstitious nonsense"

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    No in a science class. There is a disclaimer in all the books saying something like "this book teaches the theory of evolution" and the teacher can't comment on one without commenting on the other.
    Do you get to choose which creation story you get to teach?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Judges rule for teacher who called creationism "superstitious nonsense"

    Quote Originally Posted by Just1Voice View Post
    How do you propose to do that? Kids are going to be curious. They are going to ask questions about it. If you ignore the questions or refer them to their own religious leaders, then you are discouraging your students from asking relevant questions for themselves. That runs counter to a teachers mission as an educator. We should be teaching students to think critically and avoiding this topic will be discouraging in that regard.

    What we need is a way to address this topic without passing judgement on the overall belief system. We can easily show historical instances where parts of the church's worldview has been proven wrong and also instances where scientific theory has had to be modified in response to new data. I would think that an educator would want to engage this discussion and use it as a platform for teaching critical thinking skills.
    teaching kids that there is a time and a place for everything is also part of the teacher's mission
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