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Thread: Judges rule for teacher who called creationism "superstitious nonsense"

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    Re: Judges rule for teacher who called creationism "superstitious nonsense"

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    How about you use the more accurate phrase "scientific evidence"?
    SUre. Why not? Accuracy is always a good thing.
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    Re: Judges rule for teacher who called creationism "superstitious nonsense"

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    While teaching science, a teacher has every right to call creationism "superstitious nonsense" because that's what it is.
    There is no proof one way or the other. While teaching ANY class the child still has RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. The teacher is there to teach, not spread her opinion.
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    Re: Judges rule for teacher who called creationism "superstitious nonsense"

    Quote Originally Posted by Just1Voice View Post
    Why do people keep trying to make this claim? You must realize that limiting teachers this way lowers their credibility and it makes them more vulnerable to accusations of teaching propaganda. Teachers should be encouraged to speak truth.
    To speak truth, one was must know what the truth is.
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    Re: Judges rule for teacher who called creationism "superstitious nonsense"

    I have no problem teaching both sides of the argument, which is required in Alabama.
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    Re: Judges rule for teacher who called creationism "superstitious nonsense"

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    I have no problem teaching both sides of the argument, which is required in Alabama.
    In a sociology class of some sort?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Judges rule for teacher who called creationism "superstitious nonsense"

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, words can have different meanings in different contexts.

    And theories can be scientifically proven.
    wrong, as usual. you are confusing "scientifically accepted" with "scientifically proven". they are not the same.
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    Re: Judges rule for teacher who called creationism "superstitious nonsense"

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    wrong, as usual. you are confusing "scientifically accepted" with "scientifically proven". they are not the same.
    If you say so, it must be true
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    Re: Judges rule for teacher who called creationism "superstitious nonsense"

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Sure I have. I even posted links as you requested
    and yet nothing you linked had a definition for "scientifcally proven". lots of talk about supported by evidence though.

    Science may strongly support something, suggest relationships or causality, and even be 'convincing', but it can't prove it. I've never heard a scientist say something has been proved by science. Unfortunate undergrads who write that word in a lab report get stiffly rebuked by their professor.
    you are confusing "scientifically proven" with "scientific consensus".

    consensus =/= proof
    supported by evidence =/= proof
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    Re: Judges rule for teacher who called creationism "superstitious nonsense"

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    If you say so, it must be true
    and yet you have posted nothing to "prove" otherwise.
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    Re: Judges rule for teacher who called creationism "superstitious nonsense"

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    In a sociology class of some sort?
    No in a science class. There is a disclaimer in all the books saying something like "this book teaches the theory of evolution" and the teacher can't comment on one without commenting on the other.
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