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    Re: Do you prefer Border Control or Amnesty for illegals

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Thats some seriously funny stuff right there! YES...indeed...THAT is why they are sneaking into the country...not for under the table jobs and to send moeny back to their families in mejico...but for the awesome SHOPPING we have here.
    go back and read the whole post, mack


    but there are certainly wealthy foreigners who might want to live in the USA without needing to also work here
    we should want them to come and spend their money
    just not expect to earn a living or enjoy any government benefits
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Do you prefer Border Control or Amnesty for illegals

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    go back and read the whole post, mack


    but there are certainly wealthy foreigners who might want to live in the USA without needing to also work here
    we should want them to come and spend their money
    just not expect to earn a living or enjoy any government benefits
    Come on Bubba...you are killing me here. Those wealthy foreigners...THEY are the ones sneaking into this country?

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    Re: Do you prefer Border Control or Amnesty for illegals

    Inforce the laws on gthe books anf they will go back home and stop trying to turn America into the crap hole they left.

    Anyone who wants to give them Ammesty is Anti-American in my book, and that includes Obama.

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    Re: Do you prefer Border Control or Amnesty for illegals

    The poll is stupid for a lot of reason... First, it's a false dichotomy. Amnesty and border control are not mutually exclusive. Second, Rasmussen cleverly phrases it as "regaining control over our borders", which biases the question by misleading respondents into assuming that we have lost control of our borders, which is obviously false. Third, "amnesty" isn't really a meaningful concept. Some people hear that and they think "a program where people who have lived in the US more than 15 years can begin a long difficult process of applying for legal permanent residence", while others think "just handing anybody who knocks on the door citizenship"... Obviously the former is what actual politicians have actually considered in real life and the later is just stupid talk, but since there is soooo much of that particular variety of stupid talk going around, it's safe to assume that many of the respondents assumed that is what was meant by amnesty.

    Anyways, it's typical of Rasmussen issue polls. That's why their numbers are always to right leaning. They blatantly manipulate the polls like this every time.

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    Re: Do you prefer Border Control or Amnesty for illegals

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Inforce the laws on gthe books anf they will go back home and stop trying to turn America into the crap hole they left.

    Anyone who wants to give them Ammesty is Anti-American in my book, and that includes Obama.
    Lets start with just enforcing spelling rules and go from there.

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    Re: Do you prefer Border Control or Amnesty for illegals

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Which do you favor....Americans by a 2-1 margin prefer border control over Amnesty

    Voters Put Border Control Ahead of Amnesty by 2-1 Margin - Rasmussen Reports™
    I prefer border control and enforcing any current laws( as well as creating and enforcing any new laws)to crack down on illegals and encourage them to leave. We do not need amnesty and we do not need any mass roundups like they did with operation wetback in 1954 and Mexican repatriation in 1929-1939, states like Oklahoma and Arizona have proved you do not need amnesty and nor do we need mass round ups to get rid of most of the illegals. Amnesty is no solution for cracking down on illegal immigration because it amounts to pouring gas on a fire and expecting it to be put out when in reality all it does is make it worse.
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    Re: Do you prefer Border Control or Amnesty for illegals

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Lets start with just enforcing spelling rules and go from there.
    I admit I did this in a hurry but misspelling doesn't change the meaning to anyone other than a San Franfreacko liberal

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    Re: Do you prefer Border Control or Amnesty for illegals

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Inforce the laws on gthe books anf they will go back home and stop trying to turn America into the crap hole they left.

    Anyone who wants to give them Ammesty is Anti-American in my book, and that includes Obama.
    Well...then call me unAmerican...but I think it is pure stupidity to think you can create an environment rife FOR abuse, profit FROM said abuse, then be all shocked and amazed THAT it is abused. I also think there is no way you can round up 20-30 million illegals, that if you tried it you would face crippling costs (more so than now), and that if you managed to pull it off you would have full scale race riots and other legal problems. You have to be smarter than the problem to come up with a real solution.

    Now...if we can find a way to ship 20-30 million of our deadbeats to the socialist utopia that is mejico...then we would REALLY be on to something.

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    Re: Do you prefer Border Control or Amnesty for illegals

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Well...then call me unAmerican...but I think it is pure stupidity to think you can create an environment rife FOR abuse, profit FROM said abuse, then be all shocked and amazed THAT it is abused. I also think there is no way you can round up 20-30 million illegals, that if you tried it you would face crippling costs (more so than now), and that if you managed to pull it off you would have full scale race riots and other legal problems. You have to be smarter than the problem to come up with a real solution.

    Now...if we can find a way to ship 20-30 million of our deadbeats to the socialist utopia that is mejico...then we would REALLY be on to something.
    You do not need to do another operation Wetback or Mexican Repatriation. All you have to you do is enforce and enact various laws that make it hard has hell for illegals to live and make it hard as hell for someone to aid and house illegals. Oklahoma has done it, so has Arizona and other states are also in the process of doing the same thing.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Do you prefer Border Control or Amnesty for illegals

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You do not need to do another operation Wetback or Mexican Repatriation. All you have to you do is enforce and enact various laws that make it hard has hell for illegals to live and make it hard as hell for someone to aid and house illegals. Oklahoma has done it, so has Arizona and other states are also in the process of doing the same thing.
    I absolutely agree the laws need to be changed regarding the hiring of illegals. But what you are essentially saying is "your honor...we opened the gates, windows and doors, made a bed for them, offered them a seat at our table, asked them to mow our lawn, clean our house, and watch our children and paid them off the books (and a HELL of a lot less than minimum wage) and let them live with us for 30 years. We just dont think its right and they should have to go back home now."

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